Boost controller solenoids
11-25-2013, 09:27 PM
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Boost controller solenoids Guys I just got a AMS 500 boost controller and was wanting to get solenoids.
Which one are most people running. I look on ebay and they are 40 to over a 100. please help and maybe some pics of your solenoid setup.
Which one are most people running. I look on ebay and they are 40 to over a 100. please help and maybe some pics of your solenoid setup.
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11-26-2013, 04:57 AM
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Buy the ones made for it....
Otherwise Its a gamble on how well it will respond....
Not all Solenoids are the same and you want one that is already pre mapped out in the controller.
This is the Humphrey solenoid you need to use that the ams-500 and ams-1000 were designed around.
http://www.ams1000.com/index.php?opt...d=90&Itemid=97
Otherwise Its a gamble on how well it will respond....
Not all Solenoids are the same and you want one that is already pre mapped out in the controller.
This is the Humphrey solenoid you need to use that the ams-500 and ams-1000 were designed around.
http://www.ams1000.com/index.php?opt...d=90&Itemid=97
11-26-2013, 05:16 AM
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I would try these, we use them all around for boost control, with any boost controler or standalone ecu: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Boost-Control-Solenoid-valve-BCS-MAC-35A-AAA-DDBA-1BA-turbo-PWM-EMS-ECU-/330987378153?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4d106295e9&vxp=mtr
11-26-2013, 06:39 AM
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The above is pretty much the standard solenoid most controllers will use. And Roberto the seller in that ebay link above is about the cheapest of all sellers
He offers it with/without fittings etc
http://www.ebay.com/sch/union7/m.htm...p2047675.l2562
He offers it with/without fittings etc
http://www.ebay.com/sch/union7/m.htm...p2047675.l2562
11-26-2013, 06:56 AM
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The above is pretty much the standard solenoid most controllers will use. And Roberto the seller in that ebay link above is about the cheapest of all sellers
He offers it with/without fittings etc
http://www.ebay.com/sch/union7/m.htm...p2047675.l2562
He offers it with/without fittings etc
http://www.ebay.com/sch/union7/m.htm...p2047675.l2562
11-26-2013, 07:00 AM
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Correct they are not all equal, but the MAC is 100% tried and tested.
I've never heard of Humphrey, but I'm sure it works fine too.
And re-above, 4 port will be used under different circumstances. Each has their place and will depend on what you're trying to achieve, and also the actual control options you have to operate any solenoid.
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Guys thanks for all this info. One question can I just tee off of my already used turbo signal/boost line, that goes to my bottom port of my waste gate and use it for the signal for the boost solenoids??? I didn't want to drill another hole to get boost.
11-26-2013, 01:03 PM
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AEM, Apexi, Turbosmart, Greddy, Gizzmo, etc etc all use the MAC solenoid. It is the standard for almost all EBC's
Correct they are not all equal, but the MAC is 100% tried and tested.
I've never heard of Humphrey, but I'm sure it works fine too.
And re-above, 4 port will be used under different circumstances. Each has their place and will depend on what you're trying to achieve, and also the actual control options you have to operate any solenoid.
Correct they are not all equal, but the MAC is 100% tried and tested.
I've never heard of Humphrey, but I'm sure it works fine too.
And re-above, 4 port will be used under different circumstances. Each has their place and will depend on what you're trying to achieve, and also the actual control options you have to operate any solenoid.
He has an ams-500...so he should use the Humphrey solenoid...
All the duty cycles at various pressures are already setup internally and it will be the most accurate for his controller...
Its literally a one setting setup with the Humphrey solenoid on the ams controller
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If it is used for a gauge, regulator or anything like that, do not pair it up. When you start using it to control boost via a solenoid, there is air flowing albeit small amounts but more importantly the pressure in this line is no longer stable because you are bleeding air off. So use it only for the actuator itself. Nothing else.
11-29-2013, 05:47 PM
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The Humphrey solenoid that I linked to...is the one that comes with the ams-1000/ams-500
He has an ams-500...so he should use the Humphrey solenoid...
All the duty cycles at various pressures are already setup internally and it will be the most accurate for his controller...
Its literally a one setting setup with the Humphrey solenoid on the ams controller
He has an ams-500...so he should use the Humphrey solenoid...
All the duty cycles at various pressures are already setup internally and it will be the most accurate for his controller...
Its literally a one setting setup with the Humphrey solenoid on the ams controller
11-29-2013, 06:07 PM
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you can set up the solenoids in the AMS 1000/500 to be a single 3 port instead of a dual solenoid setup... so you can use one solenoid on each turbo...
its not as accurate or as efficient as using 2 together...but it still works somewhat, and you will have to play with the settings a bit to get your desired results.
and its always better to get the solenoids mounted as close to the wastgate dome as possible, but its not the end of the world if you have to mount them somewhat remotely...
it just means the longer the tubing, the more gas(air/co2) is needed to fill the same space to create more pressure differential..... i.e. ... its going to be a little slower reacting when the tubes are longer.
its not as accurate or as efficient as using 2 together...but it still works somewhat, and you will have to play with the settings a bit to get your desired results.
and its always better to get the solenoids mounted as close to the wastgate dome as possible, but its not the end of the world if you have to mount them somewhat remotely...
it just means the longer the tubing, the more gas(air/co2) is needed to fill the same space to create more pressure differential..... i.e. ... its going to be a little slower reacting when the tubes are longer.
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you can set up the solenoids in the AMS 1000/500 to be a single 3 port instead of a dual solenoid setup... so you can use one solenoid on each turbo...
its not as accurate or as efficient as using 2 together...but it still works somewhat, and you will have to play with the settings a bit to get your desired results.
and its always better to get the solenoids mounted as close to the wastgate dome as possible, but its not the end of the world if you have to mount them somewhat remotely...
it just means the longer the tubing, the more gas(air/co2) is needed to fill the same space to create more pressure differential..... i.e. ... its going to be a little slower reacting when the tubes are longer.
its not as accurate or as efficient as using 2 together...but it still works somewhat, and you will have to play with the settings a bit to get your desired results.
and its always better to get the solenoids mounted as close to the wastgate dome as possible, but its not the end of the world if you have to mount them somewhat remotely...
it just means the longer the tubing, the more gas(air/co2) is needed to fill the same space to create more pressure differential..... i.e. ... its going to be a little slower reacting when the tubes are longer.
