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Old May 9, 2004 | 09:26 PM
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Default 408 CI IN 99 percent complete! pics inside

Everything is installed ready to go. Couldn't drive it this weekend due to the fact the builder of my new home decided to tear up and fix my driveway (after 8 months) right when it's ready to hit the street . Before I head to the dyno though I'm going to a have a custom bracket support made to solve the SC movement issue (I hope). Right now a WOT blast looks like it would result in the same fate Forcefed's did. I think I have an idea that may be the answer besides buying a steel bracket. Anyways here's a few pics. The first ones are out of the car a couple weeks ago....I've been saving them . The rest are installed plus a pic of the cog and BOV set-up.

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Old May 9, 2004 | 09:36 PM
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That is one sweet looking engine.
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Old May 9, 2004 | 09:38 PM
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WOW..................LOOKS GREAT
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Old May 9, 2004 | 10:02 PM
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Looks great.
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Old May 9, 2004 | 10:13 PM
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That looks bad ***..... you got any more pics????? Who built the motor?? Specs?
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Old May 9, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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I have a steel bracket for sale ready to go if you want it. Never used, I am going with the SC Concepts setup.

$200 shipped.
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Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
That looks bad ***..... you got any more pics????? Who built the motor?? Specs?
Kyle

Thanks, I have somemore pics I'll share shortly. Todd Brandon (Reckless) helped me with the shortblock along with a local race shop who did all the machine work and balancing. I did all the rest in the busted knuckle garage!

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408 CI IN Iron Block (6.0 Liter over .030) about 9.1 CR
Eagle forged crank (4.00 stroke)
Eagle H-beam Rods
Diamond Pistons (-26 cc)
Factory heads reworked to Stage 2 (2.02/1.60) and unshrouded
Comp Cam (224/230 580/591)
ATI D1SC w/cog set-up
SMC Alcohol Injection
NOS dry set-up (only to spray the IC's now)
4:10's out back (need to drop that lower though)

dyno results to come within a couple weeks
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I have a steel bracket for sale ready to go if you want it. Never used, I am going with the SC Concepts setup.

$200 shipped.
Thanks, I'll let you know if I'm interested.
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Old May 10, 2004 | 06:34 AM
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Awesome...

Waiting your results.

Good luck..
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Old May 10, 2004 | 07:30 AM
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Lookin' good!
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Old May 10, 2004 | 08:20 AM
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Looks good Mark. We may have to dyno some time during the week? Sorry I didn't call over the weekend. Busy I have to drive the TA down to Texas this weekend and will be gone the 15th through the 19th. Let me know what you want to schedule.
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Old May 10, 2004 | 09:56 AM
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really suprised you still have the twin intercoolers. those are going to hold you back big time.
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PM sent with questions
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nice job looks awesome
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Originally Posted by Blackbird
really suprised you still have the twin intercoolers. those are going to hold you back big time.

Explain in more detail....see my sig for results on a 6-rib set-up at 12PSI! I know small twins are a little more restrictive as opposed to a larger single multiple core but I don't think they will be a huge hinderance. We'll see.
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Originally Posted by Reckless
Looks good Mark. We may have to dyno some time during the week? Sorry I didn't call over the weekend. Busy I have to drive the TA down to Texas this weekend and will be gone the 15th through the 19th. Let me know what you want to schedule.
Todd I can take a day off (usually do anyway) to make a trip to the dyno. let's shoot for like Friday the 21st. Let me know what that looks like for you. Then I'll call the Dyno guys and set-it up.
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Old May 10, 2004 | 05:31 PM
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From what I have been told from other sources is for the kind of air flow you will have feeding that big motor your going to be forcing air thru those intercoolers instead of it flowing thru and work the blower that much harder loosing alot of efficiency. How much exactly I don't know. Time will tell I guess. See what it does with the twins, if your not happy switch to a large front mount and see what you gain. It will more than likely be significant. Ask Scott WS6 about when/why he switched.
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Old May 10, 2004 | 07:15 PM
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Keep us updated, I should be dynoing here in a few days, I have a custom bracket support that supports the weak side of the blower and attaches to a mount behind the alternator....

We will see how the setup does...
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Keep us updated, I should be dynoing here in a few days, I have a custom bracket support that supports the weak side of the blower and attaches to a mount behind the alternator....

We will see how the setup does...
Bos send me a pic of that support set-up. I had my "custom guy" over tonight to look at the movement of the blower assy and we determined (we think) that there is more to this problem than what's been talked about to date.

The movement extends all the way thru the alternator. By this I mean the two all thread rods have to much play in them (threads=smaller dia than holes in brackets, etc) This allows the alternator to move slightly. Since the SC sits out farther, it's more noticable because the movement is more magnified. The goal=tighten the tolerance on the two mounting points that tie to the block. We are going to make a "beefer" 1 piece spacer assy on the bottom. It will be round stock about an 1.125" dia (thats all the size allowed by the SC belt) that's threaded on one end (10x1.5) has a small hex cut into it for tightening and a threaded hole on the other end for the bracket bolt. Other than that it will be SOLID STEEL! Same will happen up top with smaller dimensions. After that the bolt thru the idler into the alternator is more stable, and maybe make the 3rd leg of the alternator bracket (on the side of the block) out of steel.

This may be a start to the something, there is one other option I'm looking at.....solid motor mounts . Then you can use the open hole on the drivers side of the SC and tie it to the near by frame with a Hiem joint or solid steel bracket. That would definitely stop the flexing.

I could be wrong (but I hope not) stopping the flexing/movement should allow the rpms to be cranked without belt issues provided the tension is right . SD needs a tensioner for the cog
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If you look in my webshots page in the COG setup install pics, you might be able to see a pic of where it is..........

I'm not sure if I took any direct pictures of it, but it looks like a stock standoff from the bracket side, it attaches from the blower to a mount behind the alternator off of the block...
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