Tick Performance LT1 turbo build 907rwhp/860rwtq 19psi
06-05-2014, 09:54 AM
#62
Total Seal rings.
I wish we could fill this one and plug the deck, but that's race car stuff there. We could probably get away with a half fill if we ran an oil cooler and the cooling system was super beefed up.
Plugging the deck would require running water externally to the heads as well.
About the only thing we could do to safely make more power and do it reliably is swap everything over to Gen 1 SBC. Run a Dart SBC block, Dart SBC heads, Dart SBC intake and then fit the 24x kit to that engine.
IMO anyone with a LT1 set-up that wants to make huge power would do just that.
We're being cautious with this engine since this is uncharted territory for us with a LT1. The tune-up is super safe going off plug readings.
We're also really pushing the flow rating of the Ebay intercooler. We would not see nearly as high of a gain adding boost going from 19psi as we did from 13psi where we started. We really would need a better intercooler to unlock everything this combo has past this power level.
In reality the gains we saw going from 16-17psi to 18-19psi weren't that great either so it's definitely a bottle neck past this power level.
It has been swapped over to a LS1 0411 PCM, 24x signal and LS coils via an EFI connection 24x swap.
It is still using the stock LS1 0411 computer which is perfect for this application.
Thanks!
Plugging the deck would require running water externally to the heads as well.
About the only thing we could do to safely make more power and do it reliably is swap everything over to Gen 1 SBC. Run a Dart SBC block, Dart SBC heads, Dart SBC intake and then fit the 24x kit to that engine.
IMO anyone with a LT1 set-up that wants to make huge power would do just that.
We're being cautious with this engine since this is uncharted territory for us with a LT1. The tune-up is super safe going off plug readings.
We're also really pushing the flow rating of the Ebay intercooler. We would not see nearly as high of a gain adding boost going from 19psi as we did from 13psi where we started. We really would need a better intercooler to unlock everything this combo has past this power level.
In reality the gains we saw going from 16-17psi to 18-19psi weren't that great either so it's definitely a bottle neck past this power level.
It is still using the stock LS1 0411 computer which is perfect for this application.
Thanks!
Last edited by Sales@Tick; 06-08-2014 at 10:38 PM.
06-05-2014, 05:48 PM
#63
Do you have a lot of experience with the total seal rings? They've always looked interesting and worthwhile at PRI, but I've only built one motor and used the rings my pistons came with.
06-05-2014, 06:52 PM
#64
wow sure makes good power. Is this with meth and pump gas? how much timing?
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06-05-2014, 07:16 PM
#65
Their gapless rings are second to none in racing apps IMO.
IMO it's severely under timed based on the plug readings, but safe and it will hold together for a long time to come.
06-05-2014, 08:18 PM
#66
Oh wow thats so far under timed. You can probably run closer to 25deg on a lt1. Awesome build btw
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06-05-2014, 08:31 PM
#68
Badass! Saw the car in person Monday while I was there, very good looking car and build!!! Those numbers are crazy! Tick Performance is a great shop! I went with them several years ago and decided to give a different shop a chance last year, needless to say I was back at Tick Monday where I will keep my business from now on!
06-06-2014, 09:07 AM
#69
Easily could add 4 degrees. We saw a 30-35rwhp/35-40rwtq gain with each 2 degrees of timing we added. I would imagine we'd be well over 900rwhp/900rwtq if MBT was reached.
Thanks Tiago!
Badass! Saw the car in person Monday while I was there, very good looking car and build!!! Those numbers are crazy! Tick Performance is a great shop! I went with them several years ago and decided to give a different shop a chance last year, needless to say I was back at Tick Monday where I will keep my business from now on!
Glad to have you back!
06-06-2014, 02:06 PM
#70
Total Seal rings.
I wish we could fill this one and plug the deck, but that's race car stuff there. We could probably get away with a half fill if we ran an oil cooler and the cooling system was super beefed up.
Plugging the deck would require running water externally to the heads as well.
About the only thing we could do to safely make more power and do it reliably is swap everything over to Gen 1 SBC. Run a Dart SBC block, Dart SBC heads, Dart SBC intake and then fit the 24x kit to that engine.
IMO anyone with a LT1 set-up that wants to make huge power would do just that.
We're being cautious with this engine since this is uncharted territory for us with a LT1. The tune-up is super safe going off plug readings.
We're also really pushing the flow rating of the Ebay intercooler. We would not see nearly as high of a gain adding boost going from 19psi as we did from 13psi where we started. We really would need a better intercooler to unlock everything this combo has past this power level.
In reality the gains we saw going from 16-17psi to 18-19psi weren't that great either so it's definitely a bottle neck past this power level.
It has been swapped over to a LS1 0411 PCM, 24x signal and LS coils via a EFI connection 24x swap.
It is still using the stock LS1 0411 computer which is perfect for this application.
Thanks!
I wish we could fill this one and plug the deck, but that's race car stuff there. We could probably get away with a half fill if we ran an oil cooler and the cooling system was super beefed up.
Plugging the deck would require running water externally to the heads as well.
About the only thing we could do to safely make more power and do it reliably is swap everything over to Gen 1 SBC. Run a Dart SBC block, Dart SBC heads, Dart SBC intake and then fit the 24x kit to that engine.
IMO anyone with a LT1 set-up that wants to make huge power would do just that.
We're being cautious with this engine since this is uncharted territory for us with a LT1. The tune-up is super safe going off plug readings.
We're also really pushing the flow rating of the Ebay intercooler. We would not see nearly as high of a gain adding boost going from 19psi as we did from 13psi where we started. We really would need a better intercooler to unlock everything this combo has past this power level.
In reality the gains we saw going from 16-17psi to 18-19psi weren't that great either so it's definitely a bottle neck past this power level.
It has been swapped over to a LS1 0411 PCM, 24x signal and LS coils via a EFI connection 24x swap.
It is still using the stock LS1 0411 computer which is perfect for this application.
Thanks!
06-06-2014, 05:08 PM
#72
Not unless some thing internal let go like a rod and caused a major failure to the block. Jose at Forced Inductions made 1000RWHP with his '97 SS, he had a customer with a six speed 355 Formula that trapped well in to the mid 150s with an 88MM set up. Dave Lewis who owns the LMR Drag Firebird made 970RWHP+ with a blower nitrous combo back when that car was a street car and had an MTI 383 LT4 in it. All those where street cars like yours.
Last edited by BizZzatch350; 06-06-2014 at 05:14 PM.
06-07-2014, 03:17 PM
#73
Not unless some thing internal let go like a rod and caused a major failure to the block. Jose at Forced Inductions made 1000RWHP with his '97 SS, he had a customer with a six speed 355 Formula that trapped well in to the mid 150s with an 88MM set up. Dave Lewis who owns the LMR Drag Firebird made 970RWHP+ with a blower nitrous combo back when that car was a street car and had an MTI 383 LT4 in it. All those where street cars like yours.
We're really just playing it safe right now, but with the information I've been gathering with help from this thread and other contacts, it looks like we can take it up if the owner wants to.
This car is stupid fast on the street. Full boost comes in at 4000rpm and when it does the amount of torque this engine makes is flat out ridiculous. The valve events are spot on for this combo and just makes torque everywhere. On the dyno power was falling at 6500rpm, but on the street you can't even tell.
With the intercooler we're using I don't see adding boost giving us much more power. Going from 12psi to 16psi on 16* timing to redline bumped us from 650rwhp to 775rwhp. Going from 16psi to 19psi only gave us 820rwhp. Going from 16* timing to 18.5* timing after peak torque to red line took us to 850rwhp so it really wants more timing.
Probably give it some more timing and take it over 900rwhp/850rwtq.
This car should trap every bit of 150mph in the 1/4 IMO.
