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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 04:21 PM
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Ready to pull the trigger on the turbos for my build. JZ over at forceinductions recommended two s300 61s with a .91 ar. Im hesitant due to the high a/r number, but he assured me that the twin scroll housing will help spool fast. What do you guys think?


Lq9, stock bottom. Brian tooley custom cam, possibly e85(not 100% sure). It will be mainly street driven, occasional track. My goal is to run 9s. Car is under 3000 lbs, true 4 link rear, 4l80e. I want good street performance.

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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 04:42 PM
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you will be just fine with stalled Auto
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 05:33 PM
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Unless you have full twin scroll manifolds, then it makes no sense to use a divided housing.

Twin scroll only helps spool when the manifolds are actually working in conjunction with the turbine housing. And on a V8, true twin scroll as per a 4 cylinder is never actually possible anyway due to firing orders.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 07:16 PM
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A good stall converter is going in for sure. I just don't want to have a huge lag on the street.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 09:28 PM
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Those s300's come in three turbine sizes. 68mm, 71mm, and 73mm. If your looking for quicker spool do the 68mm turbine. Still a descent size turbine for twins on that motor. With your weight 9's should be a cakewalk
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by T76s10
With your weight 9's should be a cakewalk
+100
You could use the worst turbo ever and go 9's on accident with that weight.
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Old Feb 23, 2014 | 07:20 PM
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So .91 ar on a 68mm housing would be a good street/strip option? Am I understanding correct? Thank guys.
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Old Feb 23, 2014 | 07:54 PM
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Imo, you're not way off with .91. It's probably the correct starting point, if it isn't right on.
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 04:45 PM
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You guys think full boost ( im thinking around 16 psi) would come around 4000-4500rpm with this twin setup?

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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 05:01 PM
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Well what engine size are you intending to use ?

the bigger the engine the more chance you have of it spooling earlier
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Well what engine size are you intending to use ?

the bigger the engine the more chance you have of it spooling earlier
I wrote it on the initial post. Its an lq9. Stock bottom end. Brian tooley twin turbo cam.

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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 05:52 PM
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If a pair of 361's then I'd say yes certainly by 4500rpm, and more than likely by 4000rpm.

Check out the AGP Turbo kits they offer for the 2010 Camaro's. They offer a good range of turbos, one of which is a BW based S261.
61mm compressor in a smaller housing with a T3 based turbine for faster spool.

http://www.agpturbo.com/camaro-5-ss-agp-twin-turbo-kit/

It would be no bad thing to give them a call and see what they can suggest, and their units are physically much smaller than the 300's
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 06:13 PM
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Thanks for your input Stevie.

Im just concerned about how much lag its going to have. I dont want to spend $1400on the wrong turbos.

I see a lot of setups making well over 1000 horses with smaller A/Rs and mm housings.
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 08:24 PM
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those should light off very fast.
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Old Feb 25, 2014 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by BUBU04
Thanks for your input Stevie.

Im just concerned about how much lag its going to have. I dont want to spend $1400on the wrong turbos.

I see a lot of setups making well over 1000 horses with smaller A/Rs and mm housings.
There do seem to be a few cars over on the Camaro5 forum with very good results from the AGP stuff, with what seem to be very small turbochargers

With such a light car I dont see running 9's as being any problem whatsover though, with almost any twins.
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You will have no problem running running 9's in that light of a car with twins. I ran 9's with my too small 7875 Turbonetics in my 3400+ lb. Fbody.
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Old Feb 25, 2014 | 05:31 PM
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No problemo. Thanks for all the recommendations. I have more confidence going forward with the purchase.
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