Forced Induction Superchargers | Turbochargers | Intercoolers

Multiple Misfire after turbo install??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 16, 2014 | 09:14 AM
  #21  
geoff17's Avatar
9 Second Club
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 271
Likes: 0
Default

This seems really simple to me, everything is the exact same besides the turbo setup, stock fuel pump, stock tune, stock injectors, still running a MAF. The only thing you have changed since the turbo setup is the o2 sensors locations and whatever weird wiring idea you came up with. Just fail your 2 rear o2's and unplug them. Put your 2 primary o2's off each sides manifolds and wire them up stock, don't move the pins around in the ecm. Fire it back up and report back. My money is on that.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2014 | 09:18 AM
  #22  
dans94z28's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 311
Likes: 1
From: crofton md
Default

Originally Posted by geoff17
This seems really simple to me, everything is the exact same besides the turbo setup, stock fuel pump, stock tune, stock injectors, still running a MAF. The only thing you have changed since the turbo setup is the o2 sensors locations and whatever weird wiring idea you came up with. Just fail your 2 rear o2's and unplug them. Put your 2 primary o2's off each sides manifolds and wire them up stock, don't move the pins around in the ecm. Fire it back up and report back. My money is on that.
Yep.... my thoughts and I agree with this guy
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2014 | 10:02 AM
  #23  
Adam123's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 231
Likes: 0
From: Adamsville Tennessee
Default

Are you trying to use the rear o2s? We usually just delete them out. ^^ These guys^^. I don't know how you have your turbo ran but you should use the forward 02s in nears stock locations. Hell I built my cousins truck on a "real" budget build. We re-used the 2.5" tubing under the truck and used factory o2 locations. Works Great. Only thing we ever spliced was MAP wires for old school brick map because Autozone, O'Reily's and Napa couldn't get their heads out of their butts and order us a plug and play sensor. Tried for 2 weeks and they kept sending 1 Bar maps. Someone mentioned on here a boost refrence regulator but I think the truck injector rails regulator is 1 to 1. Hope someone corrects me if I'm wrong.
Good luck on getting your transmission to hold, not saying it won't but I wouldn't zero out all your torque management, especially being awd. I can't believe GM didn't put an 80e behind their SS. We burned up the 60e in my cousins truck in 1 afternoon. You should post pics of your set-up.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2014 | 10:06 PM
  #24  
trandy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
From: Wisconsin
Default

Ok, welded a bung in the left side crossover pipe just after the manifold put the 02 in and it runs fine now as long as i dont get close to boost, the way I had it wired was basically like both 02's were in the downpipe, I left the right side in the downpipe and it seems to be fine, thank you guys for all the help. Im sure ill have more questions and problems as this is my first venture like this, im dreading the tuning part lol, again I appreciate it!
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2014 | 10:42 PM
  #25  
geoff17's Avatar
9 Second Club
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 271
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by trandy
Ok, welded a bung in the left side crossover pipe just after the manifold put the 02 in and it runs fine now as long as i dont get close to boost, the way I had it wired was basically like both 02's were in the downpipe, I left the right side in the downpipe and it seems to be fine, thank you guys for all the help. Im sure ill have more questions and problems as this is my first venture like this, im dreading the tuning part lol, again I appreciate it!
Figured it had to be o2 sensor related. Glad you got it figured out. I'd still move the right side o2 out of the downpipe and and put a bung in right after the manifold and you can use the bung in the downpipe for a wideband o2 sensor for down the road when you add a wideband.
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2014 | 12:21 AM
  #26  
Schraders's Avatar
Staging Lane
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 54
Likes: 1
Default

Ive been here before! The O2 sensors need to see some differential between bank 1 and bank 2. When you run both sensors in the same bank (or in the up pipe like I did) the ECM hates it and you get a rich condition. The codes I got were "bank 1 rich bank 2 lean" which confused the living **** out of me until someone who new what they were doing straightened me out. It'll run best with one O2 sensor in the left bank and one in the right, from what you've described (even after your changes) one sensor is seeing 4 cylinders and the other is seeing 8.
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2014 | 07:00 AM
  #27  
Old Geezer's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 5,639
Likes: 71
From: GA, USA
Default

"I left the right side in the downpipe and it seems to be fine,"

Nope. What Schraders said^^^^
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2014 | 08:44 AM
  #28  
SM105K's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 344
Likes: 0
From: Scottsdale, AZ
Default

Originally Posted by Old Geezer
" turn it back on and it runs great again for 30-40 more seconds"

Closed loop delay??
That is what mine was doing.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:19 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE