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Old Jul 31, 2014 | 07:19 PM
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I was planning to run a factory ECM tuned with HP Tuners on a boosted 6.0 with an AMS1000. I have been looking into buying a new Holley Dominator system instead but I am not sure if the optional boost controller feature will be as good as an AMS or Boost Leash. My car is a 275/60 car and will be making 1000hp+ so I like the 6 stages of boost control with the AMS1000. Has anyone tried it on their car and if so, how adjustable is it?
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Old Jul 31, 2014 | 08:32 PM
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I like the holley boost controller it has quite a few options with it. I've never used an ams so I don't know how it'd compare. You can download the holley software and try it out first.
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Old Jul 31, 2014 | 08:36 PM
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The holley would be as capable. It can be configured in time based dome pressure control just like the ams
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I only ran the Holley HP on a Procharged LS, but now that I am going turbo, in simple layman's terms, lol, how does it control boost-do you need a boost controller that is wired into the Holley system
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I only ran the Holley HP on a Procharged LS, but now that I am going turbo, in simple layman's terms, lol, how does it control boost-do you need a boost controller that is wired into the Holley system
You just need a couple solenoids and a pressure seding unit for dome pressure. But, you will need 2 i/o's I believe and if your using the HP ecm you may not have enough i/o's.
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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by forcd ind
I only ran the Holley HP on a Procharged LS, but now that I am going turbo, in simple layman's terms, lol, how does it control boost-do you need a boost controller that is wired into the Holley system
Holley sells the solenoids to use,

I run 2 of them, one for pressure and one for bleed. CO2 setup, little 25 dollar tank from harbor freight and robbed a regulator off of an old air compressor.

Mine uses two outputs and one input. two PWM- and one sensor input.

EDIT: You can also download the Holley software for free and play it as well. I just started using mine last night messing around on the transbrake in the driveway, only messed with the TPS based ramp and time based for the moment, i can see myself getting into the MAP and Dome controlled in combination for control though.

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Works really good. Im using it on one Dominator and one HP. Boost by gear, rpm, time, speed, manually, whatever you want.
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Its seems very complicated to use...its a little intimidating, at least the manual is anyway. Did you guys use default settings or are you all much smarter than me lol and figured it out!
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The directions are long and complicating, but if you read the quick and dirty startup guide it's much easier to understand.

Basically once it's wired up just start adding dome pressure (if using a fixed source) and plot how much dome pressure it takes to make XX psi. Then you can go in there and pick how you want to control boost. I use boost by rpm and fill out the graph to the dome pressure required to achieve 13 #'s of boost.

Hope this helps.
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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 69-chvl
Its seems very complicated to use...its a little intimidating, at least the manual is anyway. Did you guys use default settings or are you all much smarter than me lol and figured it out!

It does seem that way but once you get into it you will realize how intuitive it is. The best thing to me about this system was the ability to dial in the controllers without the car running. Makes you feel very confident on that first pass.
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Wow, some great info and feedback! Sounds like I will be ordering one up this month and selling off the HP Tuners and ECM I bought.

I see you can run low or high impedance injectors with the Dominator. Any reason I shouldn't save a buck and get the low impedance injectors? Planning on 160LB injectors for the E85.
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I have the holley 120lb low imp injectors on e85, work great. Holley now offers 160's as well. Be careful, some peoples big 160+ injectors are CNG that aren't compatible with e85.
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Yep, i have both, 120s and 160s and have had no issues with either on idle quality. The 160s according to holley flow 168.5 at 43psi and 60 they flow 197
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Great! I will just get the Holley injectors when I buy the system.
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Originally Posted by 69-chvl
You just need a couple solenoids and a pressure sending unit for dome pressure.
2 solenoids I see in their order sheet, but what sending unit are we talking about, a MAP sensor?
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Originally Posted by Ratical
2 solenoids I see in their order sheet, but what sending unit are we talking about, a MAP sensor?

Depends on how you want to set it up. You can use a 3 or 5bar MAP sensor you can also use a 100psi pressure transducer. What will you be using to send pressure to the domes with?

CO2? On board air compressor? Or just manifold pressure? Essentially, however much pressure you will be sending and regulating will determine what sensor you need for dome pressure sensor.
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Originally Posted by asubennett
Depends on how you want to set it up. You can use a 3 or 5bar MAP sensor you can also use a 100psi pressure transducer. What will you be using to send pressure to the domes with?

CO2? On board air compressor? Or just manifold pressure? Essentially, however much pressure you will be sending and regulating will determine what sensor you need for dome pressure sensor.
I want to run about 22 to 24lbs of boost on my high setting. I think I will do a C02 bottle with around a 12 pound spring.
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Its very good IMO, but I havent used an AMS.

I have mine setup with a small air tank in the trunk, I have 10 psi springs in the gates & it takes 15 or so psi to get 21-22psi in the motor.

I have used both a holley 3 bar and holley 5bar as the input for the boost control.

I use Boost Vs speed on the street and boost Vs time at the track.
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Originally Posted by samdogmx
Its very good IMO, but I havent used an AMS.

I have mine setup with a small air tank in the trunk, I have 10 psi springs in the gates & it takes 15 or so psi to get 21-22psi in the motor.

I have used both a holley 3 bar and holley 5bar as the input for the boost control.

I use Boost Vs speed on the street and boost Vs time at the track.
What track do you normally run at? Our set ups are sooo similar. Would be cool to meet up with you at the track. I am twin MPT70/AWIC/Holley EFI in a fox body - also in Chicago. :-)

To the OP, I use a 3bar MAP sensor as reference. They are cheap and effective and have enough resolution for your plans.
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Excellent information. Is there any reason not to use a 5 bar over a 3 bar? Seems the 3 bar will cover the boost levels I want, but are there any pro's or cons to running a 5 bar?
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