Handling difference between h/c and s/c?
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Staging Lane
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Handling difference between h/c and s/c? Anyone notice a difference in handling due to the added weight of a supercharger?
*2005 c6 z51 pkg vette on coilovers*
*2005 c6 z51 pkg vette on coilovers*
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It really doesn't add enough to make a noticeable difference in handling. The blower is ~15-20lbs depending on size, but on an f-body, it's mounted low, so it's not as bad. Then you have the coldside piping which is typically aluminum and the intercooler, which adds another 15-20lbs, which again, is low in the car, so it's not as bad as a top mounted positive displacement blower would be.
Where did you get the 80-100lb from? Is that the shipping weight of everything in the kit/box?
If it really is 80-100lbs, I'm a lot stronger than I realize since I was able to hold it over my head with one hand and bolt it up with the other. Granted, it's a D1SC, so I would expect an F1 to weigh more, and an F2 more than that, etc etc.
If it really is 80-100lbs, I'm a lot stronger than I realize since I was able to hold it over my head with one hand and bolt it up with the other. Granted, it's a D1SC, so I would expect an F1 to weigh more, and an F2 more than that, etc etc.
So that's the entire kit weight. All of that isn't in one spot. You have the piping, intercooler, etc. So yes, it is weight in front of the wheels, but it's not horrendous.
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Staging Lane
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Weight I will not comment on anyone else s opinion, but this is what I know from my experience
I received my ECS Novi Blower, with inter-cooler, complete kit, in 1 box, and also in that box I received a Blower cam, Springs, push rods and a timing chain.
The 1 box weighed 72 lbs when shipped UPS to my door.
I received my ECS Novi Blower, with inter-cooler, complete kit, in 1 box, and also in that box I received a Blower cam, Springs, push rods and a timing chain.
The 1 box weighed 72 lbs when shipped UPS to my door.
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Verdad Gallardo I will not comment on anyone else s opinion, but this is what I know from my experience
I received my ECS Novi Blower, with inter-cooler, complete kit, in 1 box, and also in that box I received a Blower cam, Springs, push rods and a timing chain.
The 1 box weighed 72 lbs when shipped UPS to my door.
I received my ECS Novi Blower, with inter-cooler, complete kit, in 1 box, and also in that box I received a Blower cam, Springs, push rods and a timing chain.
The 1 box weighed 72 lbs when shipped UPS to my door.
Move the battery to the trunk, get some lighter suspension pieces, lighter hood, and it will help offset the weight. The additional power is worth every pound of weight added.
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Staging Lane
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Well that is refreshing information. I want to go f/I due to good drivabillity but didnt like the thought of all the added weight. My car is on phadt coilovers now and handling is why I love these cars so much.....just didnt want to upset the weight balance of the car.
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My blower was 85lbs. I noticed the added front weight right away. Not a big deal, but you could definitely tell it was there. Anybody who tells you they added 80-100lbs weight to one end of their car and tells you they can't feel it is not someone you should be taking advice from if you are concerned about handling.
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I was finding it difficult to believe that it could go unnoticed as well....when I pick up an 80lb dumbell at the gym. I mean I will probably never roadcourse (race) competitively. ...but I really enjoy a well balanced machine.
My blower was 85lbs. I noticed the added front weight right away. Not a big deal, but you could definitely tell it was there. Anybody who tells you they added 80-100lbs weight to one end of their car and tells you they can't feel it is not someone you should be taking advice from if you are concerned about handling.
If you want to track the car, put it on a set of scales and see what your corner weights are first, then start making some decisions of where you can add or remove weight.
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Is there any weight you could moved to the rear? here are some ideas:
Battery moved to rear
Carbon hood, fenders and front bumper
Carbon rocker covers
Light weight wheels
A light weight big brake kit or the Z06 carbon brake kit
Removing the crash member or getting a light one made up
Ditching the AC
moving washer tank to the rear
If dry sump moving the dry sump tank to the rear
Thinner front glass
Some are a bit more radical than others but just some ideas.
Battery moved to rear
Carbon hood, fenders and front bumper
Carbon rocker covers
Light weight wheels
A light weight big brake kit or the Z06 carbon brake kit
Removing the crash member or getting a light one made up
Ditching the AC
moving washer tank to the rear
If dry sump moving the dry sump tank to the rear
Thinner front glass
Some are a bit more radical than others but just some ideas.
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Weight Weight,,,,,,,,,,,what weight?
When I get on boost, my car feels 500 lbs lighter on the front end as the headlights tends to look and point to the clouds & stars.
Don't over think it,,,,,,,,,,,,it's no big deal.
When I get on boost, my car feels 500 lbs lighter on the front end as the headlights tends to look and point to the clouds & stars.
Don't over think it,,,,,,,,,,,,it's no big deal.
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Right and how many race circuits do you drive? It's not all about power in a track day car. You need a balance between handling and power if you want to be fast.
Got coilovers? Got access to 4 post scales? Corner scale the car, should help get the weight more evenly distributed.
Adding weight to the FRONT of any car, will change the dynamic of it, especially in corners. Will YOU notice? Probably NOT....not unless it's a dialed in track car you have plenty of seat time in to notice a difference like that.
..and for a track car...I would THINK you'd wanna be more into a turbo setup then a blower setup given how they both make boost differently but, to each they're own.
Adding weight to the FRONT of any car, will change the dynamic of it, especially in corners. Will YOU notice? Probably NOT....not unless it's a dialed in track car you have plenty of seat time in to notice a difference like that.
..and for a track car...I would THINK you'd wanna be more into a turbo setup then a blower setup given how they both make boost differently but, to each they're own.
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V series, the vette isn't the easiest to turbo though and they don't deal with heat very well (limited airflow). The other issue with turbos is getting to boost to represent the throttle position. That should be easier with a centri as it's crank driven. You can do it with turbos using boost a boost controller or mappable ecu.