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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 05:06 PM
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As stated.. to pin or not to pin? I've decided to install 8 rib set up, awell as buying ATI damper and use this... http://shop.brutespeed.com/CBR-8RIB865PLY-98-02-F-Body-8-Rib-865-Crank-Pulley-CBR-8RIB865PLY.htm

Now I've heard many people not pinning and reading the ati install manual it doesn't seem to talk about pinning crank. But heard it was wise to do so... wanted some 2nd opinions.

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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 05:44 PM
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You have to pin it or the balancer with spin on the crank. I would use 2 pins.
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 06:18 PM
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This is the one you want to use.

http://shop.brutespeed.com/ATI-3GSMM...-3GSMM-001.htm
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 08:37 PM
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Pin it-I used a diff pinning kit, dug into the bal
use the Procharger pin kit listed
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 08:46 PM
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I doubled pinned mine, having one it dug into the balancer.
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Well sounds like I'm pinned down here. Thanks gentleman
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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 12:05 AM
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Pinning would be a minimum requirement in my camp.

Keyway or double keyway to do it right.
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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 06:11 AM
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The crank pinning is detailed with pictures on page 4 in the ProCharger manual. Bob
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Double Keyway here and no issues.
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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 10:19 AM
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Definitely pin it. I single pinned my last supercharged ls engine and it lasted 50k miles daily driven with no problems at all. Double pinning dosent hurt but honestly it would take a miracle to shear one when drilled through the front instead of 90 deg into the side like the older kits.
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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 06:31 AM
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I had orig used the ATI pinning kit where you drill thru the crank and install a pin, then install the balancer so the keyway in the bal. lines up with the pin
When I went to rem. it for some engine upgrades, it had tried to turn, the pin had dug into the keyway a little, making it hard to get off
Double keyed is def the way to go, but if the engine is together prob. the Procharger kit where it goes in the front half and half works best
I used that on my last build
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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 03:29 PM
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I pinned my crank with a magnacharger pin kit on stock crank pulley when I did my cam swap. I'm gonna be swapping my cam out again, how do you guys go about re installing the stock crank pulley? Line up the perviously drilled holes or re-drill new holes and reuse pins?
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I would double pin it, shares the load from each side
Mine just ate a pin and ruined the crank and pulley.
It's cheap insurance and fairly easy to do with the pin kit
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Originally Posted by mkvamso
I would double pin it, shares the load from each side
Mine just ate a pin and ruined the crank and pulley.
It's cheap insurance and fairly easy to do with the pin kit
I agree, double pin it. I snapped a single pin and it messed up the snout of the crank and the hub of the pulley. Granted, I had a 4.00" pulley on the D1 and was making 15psi of boost.
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Quick question: is it worth pinning the crank when using the aster bracket? the spring tensioner should take stress off the crank right?
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Originally Posted by Ws6Dnero
Quick question: is it worth pinning the crank when using the aster bracket? the spring tensioner should take stress off the crank right?
You have to pin the crank with any bracket stock procharger, aster, or cog. The stock crank dose not have a key way they are only pressed on. The balancer will spin on the crank and will not make the boost that is should make.
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Originally Posted by stmz28
You have to pin the crank with any bracket stock procharger, aster, or cog. The stock crank dose not have a key way they are only pressed on. The balancer will spin on the crank and will not make the boost that is should make.
Correct. Depending on how much the balancer spins its probably too late to save the balancer or crank. Not worth it to not pin the crank Before running any type charger that puts extra turning resistance on the dampner.
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I just dont see it being that much resistance using the spring tensioned bracket, but i guess
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Originally Posted by Ws6Dnero
I just dont see it being that much resistance using the spring tensioned bracket, but i guess
It has absolutely nothing to do with it.
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Ws6Dnero
I just dont see it being that much resistance using the spring tensioned bracket, but i guess
Not belt tension, resistance. The head unit's resistance to spin hard enough to compress enough air to make boost at 6xxx rpm. It takes probably 50 crank hp to spin a procharger that fast.
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