Forced Induction Superchargers | Turbochargers | Intercoolers

Reverse split cam with a supercharger ?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 11, 2015 | 03:49 AM
  #1  
fastcars95's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 431
Likes: 1
From: Ontario
Default Reverse split cam with a supercharger ?

I've used this cam on a couple turbo builds and I was wondering if I could use it with a supercharger.
It's already installed in my shortblock and I dont really want to buy another cam.
I know most people don't like reverse split cams but Id like some opinions on this cam with a blower.
Attached Thumbnails Reverse split cam with a supercharger ?-image-1062230978.jpg  
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2015 | 08:32 AM
  #2  
The Alchemist's Avatar
UNDER PRESSURE MOD
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 10,813
Likes: 15
From: Doylestown PA
Default

Here's the thing with forced induction, and I'm not a cam expert, but the key to making power is getting as much air into and out of the cylinder. The blower/turbo helps get it in, but there is nothing but the piston to push it out, so you need as much help as possible getting spent gasses out of the chamber.

Chances are, you're going to see less horsepower, but more boost pressure with that cam. Say you are making 15psi, you might only see 575rwhp. Put in a blower friendly cam, and your boost pressure might drop to 11-12psi, but power would increase to 650 (just random numbers here).

I'd rather make more hp with less boost, than the opposite. If I could make 1000rwhp on 10psi, I'd chose that all day long vs. 1000hp at 30psi of boost.

So in the end, a cam events are even more critical in a forced induction setup, especially considering the flow characteristics of the cylinder heads.
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2015 | 09:06 AM
  #3  
NitrOmm's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 567
Likes: 6
From: Wellington, FL
Default

Originally Posted by The Alchemist
Here's the thing with forced induction, and I'm not a cam expert, but the key to making power is getting as much air into and out of the cylinder. The blower/turbo helps get it in, but there is nothing but the piston to push it out, so you need as much help as possible getting spent gasses out of the chamber.

Chances are, you're going to see less horsepower, but more boost pressure with that cam. Say you are making 15psi, you might only see 575rwhp. Put in a blower friendly cam, and your boost pressure might drop to 11-12psi, but power would increase to 650 (just random numbers here).

I'd rather make more hp with less boost, than the opposite. If I could make 1000rwhp on 10psi, I'd chose that all day long vs. 1000hp at 30psi of boost.

So in the end, a cam events are even more critical in a forced induction setup, especially considering the flow characteristics of the cylinder heads.
"EXACTLY "
If your going through the trouble of installing FI you may as well not leave all that on the table. Relatively speaking a Cam swap isn't too intrusive when you consider all the other supporting mods that we go through.
My. $0.02
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2015 | 09:18 AM
  #4  
fastcars95's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 431
Likes: 1
From: Ontario
Default

I made 600whp with this cam on my stock 4.8 on 10lbs. I know it can make some power.
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2015 | 11:14 AM
  #5  
The Alchemist's Avatar
UNDER PRESSURE MOD
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 10,813
Likes: 15
From: Doylestown PA
Default

Originally Posted by fastcars95
I made 600whp with this cam on my stock 4.8 on 10lbs. I know it can make some power.
Ok, then why bother asking?
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2015 | 11:16 AM
  #6  
fastcars95's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 431
Likes: 1
From: Ontario
Default

I was asking because that was with a turbocharger. The cam was designed as a turbo cam. I'm not sure if it will perform with a my new setup. Novi 2200
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2015 | 12:06 PM
  #7  
anewconvert's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Default

Generally speaking the idea behind a turbo cam is to prevent exhaust gas from re-entering the cylinder since it is under significant pressure due to the turbo. As such the exhaust tends to close earlier with turbo cams.

With a blower you have a far more open flowing exhaust with significantly less back pressure so the blower cams leave the exhaust open longer and take advantage of the fact that the intake air in pressurized to help push exhaust out. So there is more overlap than a turbo cam.

Will your cam work? Yes. The engine will run and make more power than without a blower. Will your engine make more power with a blower cam? Probably significantly more.

Beyond these general rules I'm not qualified to speak. Maybe the cam gurus will come add detail.
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2015 | 07:05 PM
  #8  
fastcars95's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 431
Likes: 1
From: Ontario
Default

Can anyone recommend a good blower cam.
6.0l iron short
Patroit stage 3 heads
Novi 2200.
Looking to make 700-750whp
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jan 11, 2015 | 09:04 PM
  #9  
The Alchemist's Avatar
UNDER PRESSURE MOD
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 10,813
Likes: 15
From: Doylestown PA
Default

BruteSpeed blower cam.

http://shop.brutespeed.com/Brute-Spe...d-Camshaft.htm
Reply
Old Jan 12, 2015 | 12:52 AM
  #10  
stock48's Avatar
9 Second Truck Club
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,672
Likes: 9
From: Colorado Springs, Co/ Central, Ca
Default

You need a 6~12 deg forward split IMO. I have had guys use my single pattern turbo cams with blowers and they have worked ok but a little extra exh duration works better. I would not run a reverse for that application.
Reply
Old Jan 12, 2015 | 09:58 AM
  #11  
Bob@BruteSpeed's Avatar
LS1Tech Sponsor
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
Liked
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 21,020
Likes: 35
From: Roanoke, IN
Thumbs up

Originally Posted by The Alchemist
Thanks! Bob
__________________
ATI ProCharger and Moser Sales 260 672-2076

PM's disabled, please e-mail me
E-mail: brutespeed@gmail.comob@brutespeed.com

https://brutespeed.com/ Link to website


Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:45 AM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE