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Old Jan 17, 2015 | 01:47 PM
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Default 10° max mounting angle for BW S480?

Trying to mount this unit up close to the firewall. Being able to tilt the *** end down will help with down pipe fabrication.

Has anyone mounted this unit at this angle (10°) or greater? Anything I can do to allow it to be tilted more?

Turbo is a BWS480 billet ETRHO 1.25 t4 race cover.


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Old Jan 18, 2015 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Razor
Trying to mount this unit up close to the firewall. Being able to tilt the *** end down will help with down pipe fabrication.

Has anyone mounted this unit at this angle (10°) or greater? Anything I can do to allow it to be tilted more?

Turbo is a BWS480 billet ETRHO 1.25 t4 race cover.


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I think you'd be fine with 10*.

I read Garrett called out +/- 15* on most units.
Somewhere In the Maximum boost book I believe it indicated 30* was the max.
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Old Jan 18, 2015 | 08:28 AM
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I think you'd be fine with 10*.

I read Garrett called out +/- 15* on most units.
Somewhere In the Maximum boost book I believe it indicated 30* was the max.
If I could do 30° and be good, that would be awesome.

I have read mention of the journal bearing turbos not taking as much of an angle as a ball bearing unit.

Still, I would like to hear someone with experience mounting a BW at an angle, how much of an angle, and if/how it affected its bearings.
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Old Jan 18, 2015 | 08:35 AM
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Just found this on Garrett's site;

Turbo tilted back on its axis past recommended 15°.



Basically I would need something like this but in 4". Or, have the down pipe pie cut to death..



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Old Jan 18, 2015 | 09:36 PM
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Tilting the turbo puts extra load on the thrust bearing in a JB setup. The BB units can take more angle as they handle the load better.
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Old Jan 19, 2015 | 04:01 AM
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I would highly doubt the concern is a bearing one.

But if it is tilted too far there is a likely hood of oil building up and bypassing the piston ring and causing a little smoking.

If you can live with that I wouldnt be too concerned
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
I would highly doubt the concern is a bearing one. But if it is tilted too far there is a likely hood of oil building up and bypassing the piston ring and causing a little smoking. If you can live with that I wouldnt be too concerned
This is what i was thinking. I was also under the impression it was a drain issue.

OP one of my JB turbos is tilted about 10 degrees and I have zero drain/smoking issues.

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This is what i was thinking. I was also under the impression it was a drain issue.

OP one of my JB turbos is tilted about 10 degrees and I have zero drain/smoking issues.
I am not concerned with oil drain. The turbo will have more than enough angle on the drain line to gravity evac and it is a -10 line. A little puff of smoke is a non issue for me as well.

I am just concerned about the bearings not liking the angle.

What is the maximum angle you think I could get away with and not have any adverse effects on turbo life? 30°?
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Old Jan 19, 2015 | 08:58 AM
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Up to 30 degrees in either direction. That's the Borg specification.

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Originally Posted by Razor
I am not concerned with oil drain. The turbo will have more than enough angle on the drain line to gravity evac and it is a -10 line. A little puff of smoke is a non issue for me as well. I am just concerned about the bearings not liking the angle. What is the maximum angle you think I could get away with and not have any adverse effects on turbo life? 30°?
Regardless of how sharp your return hose angle is you will still lose a little bit of draining if the turbo isn't straight up and down. As minimal as it might be its still there. With my T/N turbos I believe 14* is the max allowed. I have -10 line with a 90 bend coming right off the bottom of the turbo. With that said I believe every specification has a little tolerance built in. So in my specific application I would not exceed 20*

If your turbo manufacturer says 30* is acceptable than go with 30* my .02 anyways.

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-10AN line is on the small side in some cases. Esp. if the fitting ID isn’t a true -10. Check the actual drain port diameter on the turbo itself and ensure you don’t go smaller than that anywhere in the system. I believe BW suggests no smaller than a 19cm (3/4”!) ID drain. Copper tubing works well for this.

I’d be more than comfortable up to 30* assuming the drain is setup correctly.
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Originally Posted by Forcefed86
-10AN line is on the small side in some cases. Esp. if the fitting ID isn’t a true -10. Check the actual drain port diameter on the turbo itself and ensure you don’t go smaller than that anywhere in the system. I believe BW suggests no smaller than a 19cm (3/4”!) ID drain. Copper tubing works well for this. I’d be more than comfortable up to 30* assuming the drain is setup correctly.
Good advice @ 30* angle
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Up to 30 degrees in either direction. That's the Borg specification.

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