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Old Jan 21, 2015 | 07:26 PM
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Im not going to run a filter on my F1a to make as much boost as possible. I do however want to run some type of screen on it to keep anything big out of the inlet such as leaves ect. has anyone found anything that will fit on the snout of the blower but not hit the radiator? Its on a 99 Camaro. I see the bellmouth piece that procharger sells but it is 3" long and just big enough to where it will hit the radiator. Ive also seen the turbo gaurds but I don't think they will work either because the stub piece on the inlet shaft sticks out about 1/2" to 3/4" so it seems it will hit the screen. I really need something that's like 2"-2 1'4" think or so.
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Old Jan 21, 2015 | 08:23 PM
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Im not going to run a filter on my F1a to make as much boost as possible. I do however want to run some type of screen on it to keep anything big out of the inlet such as leaves ect. has anyone found anything that will fit on the snout of the blower but not hit the radiator? Its on a 99 Camaro. I see the bellmouth piece that procharger sells but it is 3" long and just big enough to where it will hit the radiator. Ive also seen the turbo gaurds but I don't think they will work either because the stub piece on the inlet shaft sticks out about 1/2" to 3/4" so it seems it will hit the screen. I really need something that's like 2"-2 1'4" think or so.
I have a turbo guard that fits a 4 inch inlet if you want it.
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Old Jan 21, 2015 | 08:35 PM
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I have a turbo guard that fits a 4 inch inlet if you want it.
What are the dims long wise? I actually sent them a message. I think one 2 1/2" long will be perfect as it will clear the cone piece on the inlet shaft but not hit the radiator.
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Old Jan 22, 2015 | 06:27 PM
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doesn't look like a turbo guard is going to be the answer. anyone else have an idea of what to use?
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Send me a number and I'll text you a picture or four of what I am doing. No easy fix but I have a 12" cone filter tucked up behind the license plate. Radiator moved forward to AC slot, 60 degree fabricated Specter trimmed as short as possible on the blower side, Normal 90 attached to that rolled a little toward the center of the car, then a big cone filter. Factory radiator support trimmed accordingly.
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I just got a piece of heavy screen, aprx 1/4" squares, cut it and molded it around the inlet, and used a clamp to hold it
Be careful with something flimsy, it can suck in
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Send me a number and I'll text you a picture or four of what I am doing. No easy fix but I have a 12" cone filter tucked up behind the license plate. Radiator moved forward to AC slot, 60 degree fabricated Specter trimmed as short as possible on the blower side, Normal 90 attached to that rolled a little toward the center of the car, then a big cone filter. Factory radiator support trimmed accordingly.
I still have Ac on the car so that won't really work unfortunately. I'm not planning on running a filter either.
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Originally Posted by forcd ind
I just got a piece of heavy screen, aprx 1/4" squares, cut it and molded it around the inlet, and used a clamp to hold it
Be careful with something flimsy, it can suck in
Yea I've seen the screen your talking about at lowes. I may end up doing something similar. I guess you kinda made it cup shaped to clear the cone shaped piece?
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Old Jan 23, 2015 | 08:10 AM
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If your street driving the car I would not drive it on the street without a filter, even on clean highways tons of dust and little debrie will get sucked in threw the blower and into the engine. Not good at all runnig a screen is more restrictive than a good flowing air filter
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Typical screen mesh I see used is very restrictive. It has no surface area and flows horribly. Most Screens will restrict boost more than a filter. 10X better off with even a tiny filter. Fiberglass coated Hvac ducting/boxes work very well. Post up some pictures of the space u are working with.
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Ironically putting AC back in mine is how all of this rework started on mine. You would have to put a shorter condenser on it to replicate mine.
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Originally Posted by VIPERSLYR
If your street driving the car I would not drive it on the street without a filter, even on clean highways tons of dust and little debrie will get sucked in threw the blower and into the engine. Not good at all runnig a screen is more restrictive than a good flowing air filter
People typically see a 2psi gain going from a filterhat/big k&n filter vs nothing or just a screen. I'm not looking for something with a fine screen such as a screen door as yes, I would agree that would quite restrictive. They have screen at lowes or on such screens like the turbo guard maxx that has 1/4" screen where the squares are 1/4" apart if that makes sense. I don't have much data to back this up but it seems that most small dust particles would go out of the bypass valve before it got to the motor while cruising and not under boost. Under boost is a different story of course but I have a hard time believing a big k&n type filter is going to stop fine dust from getting past it as well with the extreme suction a blower is going to cause at say 1500cfm. Yes it will catch bugs or something slightly bigger than dust/dirt ect but I honestly don't see a ton getting to the blower anyways the way it is tucked up behind the radiator on a fourth gen. I'm not trying to start a argument or prove anyone wrong but just my two cents. Please chime in if you think otherwise.
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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 03:36 AM
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Wes (the guy I bought the Formula from) would probably disagree with you. It was his history and advice along with my desire for AC that caused a pretty big tear down on an otherwise perfect car. He sent me a receipt of where he had to have it refreshed because of no air cleaner. It was a low mile drive train in the Firehawk. He had it refreshed at major bucks then put everything into the Formula.

I drove it 1 mile at his house then unloaded it at mine and tore it apart to put the MWC and AC in. Here I am a snow balled nearly 6 later and getting it slowly back assembled after the holidays etc. I ran an air filter on my 9 second Duster and 8 second Spitzer Dragster. I started running filters after pulling oil samples and comparing the analysis to street cars. Right then I decided non class racing cars didn't need every ounce I could squeeze out of it. I never noticed any change in ET or MPH on those two but they were NA. Once I get mine redyno'd later this year I will test my cone setup vs naked F1C Regardless of the numbers anywhere but the track or money racing is getting the filter even if it does choke it. It is a 12" long tapered blue cone AFE with a 1/4" stud in the middle to support it (from memory on the brand not positive)

It won't do me any good to compare to previous dyno runs since I have changed the car so much plus Water Meth. Wes had a little K&N Filter on it to have something on there. It all depends on what you want to do with the car of course.

My 2 cents at 3:30 in the freaking AM.
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