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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 05:18 PM
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Texas speed 408 10:5cr
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Built th400 with s60 in the rear

Plan to shoot for about 850rwhp maybe a little more. High 8s and I'll be more than happy. I have a bullseye compR 91mm t6 and I'm debating on going with a s480. I've read they can reach this hp level easy and I figure the spool time would be a lot better. What do you guys think? I can always buy another turbo and just sell this one. It's new
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 08:12 PM
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an s480 will defffinately reach that goal pretty easily, and lag will be heavily reduced.. i reccomend the s480 for a street car. A buddy hassa 91mm t6 on a 408 and said on low boost its terrible.. and low boost on that turbo is 800whp lol
Nice setup though!!
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 08:14 PM
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See that's what I'm afraid of. The car will be on a t-brake but on the street it's going to lag. Hmmmm anyone else's input? And if anyone wants it I'll sell it lol
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i put the new forced inductions billet S484 on my 408 and its a straight monster. im seeing usable boost around 3200 rpm and it pulls to 6500 and makes 1100 wheel horsepower pretty easy.
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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 01:10 PM
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Hmmmm I think I might sell mine then. I can save some money too if I get rid of that bullseye and buy a billet s480
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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 02:45 PM
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Or let me ask you this.... Has anyone/company compared the two, s480 billet and bullseye comp r 91 mm.
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 08:44 AM
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I'm a bit behind on my emails. Sorry for the delay sir.
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Sounds to me you are in a situation where you can't lose. Maybe wait and see what Martin days before doing anything. I'm sure a cam with the right valve events can spool your existing turbo the way you want it to.
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 09:42 AM
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That's what I figire Phoenix. I'm just wanting to do this once and be done with it. Don't feel like tearing it down and changing things after its already done.

No problem Martin. As soon as we get this figured out though I want to order!!!! Just waiting on gaskets and cam and then I'll throw the motor back in
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Old Feb 10, 2015 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by transamfreak01
Or let me ask you this.... Has anyone/company compared the two, s480 billet and bullseye comp r 91 mm.
For an 850whp goal, an 80mm turbo would be much better sized for your engine. 80mm bat with a 1.25 T4 on an 87mm turbine would be killer and light up very quickly.

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Old Feb 10, 2015 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by cptinjak
For an 850whp goal, an 80mm turbo would be much better sized for your engine. 80mm bat with a 1.25 T4 on an 87mm turbine would be killer and light up very quickly.

Jack
whats your thoughts on this?
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Old Feb 10, 2015 | 12:05 PM
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408 inch motor with aftermarket heads needs nothing less than a 96/1.32 turbine side period... especially since 850 rwhp is stated as the beginning goal for the car... not the end goal.

putting a 87mm turbine with a 1.25 T4 housing will be maxed out with ZERO room to grow at that level.
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i agree, at least a .96 AR s480, and 800whp will be a pumpgas number for a 408 with heads like that.

Billet s484 will carry you over 1000whp on pump fuel to the tire thru an automatic. pretty insane.

i simply say why build a 408 with ballin' heads and settle for 800whp haha
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I'm building a 416 with pretty good heads (at least once they get done being fixed) and I only plan to make 800-900rwhp, but I also plan to drive it back and forth to LS FEST and other events this year.

As for turbo recommendations, no clue, but some of the smart turbo guys on here will get you to where you want to go.
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Old Feb 10, 2015 | 05:01 PM
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Thanks guys.... Yea the t4 is a definite no. I already have a custom t6 hotside done up already. I'm thinking about maybe just staying with the turbo I have. I don't want to completely push this motor to the limits though. (Don't feel like buying another). Like I said I'm just worried about spool time. I think I should be fine with this thkugh.
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I have an 80/96 1.32 Billet for sale but personay I'd go 88mm anytime you set a goal leave room to grow I wanted 800hp and after the first 6 months I wanted 1000 ended up around 1100. Don't max it out right out of the gate.
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Old Feb 11, 2015 | 08:17 AM
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The turbo you have now will make the power you want easily. A smaller unit would also make the power you want as well.

With a camshaft that is specified for the application and keeping decreased spool time in mind, I feel you'll have little issue getting the turbo up to speed without much if any lag.
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
The turbo you have now will make the power you want easily. A smaller unit would also make the power you want as well.

With a camshaft that is specified for the application and keeping decreased spool time in mind, I feel you'll have little issue getting the turbo up to speed without much if any lag.
There's your answer right there OP. That bad boy you already have will give you so much room to grow once you fiend for more power.
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Old Feb 11, 2015 | 08:26 AM
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Thank you Martin that is exactly what I wanted to hear. I Got your email so I'll fill it out today or tomorrow and we can get things going!!. And I'll start a build log as I go for this
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Old Feb 11, 2015 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by LILHEMI
whats your thoughts on this?
It's flawed.

The billet Borg 7 blade wheel they tested was never and still is not available. It was a prototype. Try to look up that part number...

The First generation batmo they tested was used in a remachined cover that did not come from us.

The engineer that did the test was told not to release the map because of these issues. It was never released by borg warner. It found it's way to a friend who posted it online. Don't worry about that bogus map. We have plenty of cars out there proving the batmo.

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