1700 rwhp with a F1X
Joe's C5Z is turning some nice numbers on the dyno and the track... When he went 4.61 they were trying to figure out how to bring the power in faster without the car riding the bumper. Still rode the bumper but they made nice progress.
Next time he should with some the judicious placement of ballast and some chassis adjustments go 4.5's.
Nice job on the cam Martin!
Joe's FB page for the car btw:
https://www.facebook.com/JoeDedonaMotorsports
Next time he should with some the judicious placement of ballast and some chassis adjustments go 4.5's.
Nice job on the cam Martin!
Joe's FB page for the car btw:
https://www.facebook.com/JoeDedonaMotorsports
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Joe's C5Z is turning some nice numbers on the dyno and the track... When he went 4.61 they were trying to figure out how to bring the power in faster without the car riding the bumper. Still rode the bumper but they made nice progress.
Next time he should with some the judicious placement of ballast and some chassis adjustments go 4.5's.
Nice job on the cam Martin!
Joe's FB page for the car btw:
https://www.facebook.com/JoeDedonaMotorsports
Next time he should with some the judicious placement of ballast and some chassis adjustments go 4.5's.
Nice job on the cam Martin!
Joe's FB page for the car btw:
https://www.facebook.com/JoeDedonaMotorsports
Thanks PSJ!
4.6 in the 1/8th
1700 whp through unlocked auto.
Those "dismal" heads should sell for a bargain when no longer needed.
Guys have to keep three blowers on hand to make it thru a weekend!
When the Procharger Tech says they are only rated for 1300hp and won't stand behind their product. ...????
No thanks!
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It would be very hard to argue that a better set of heads would not produce even more power and quicker et produced.
Better yet, I'll let you know how the new set does.
The heads on this motor are also holding it back a lot.
I had Chris Frank flow them last year and lets say the results weren't anywhere near what they advertise.
Heads went static at .700" lift and 368 cfm. Exhaust went static at .750" with 225cfm. Mast shows 395@.700" and 249@.700".
.
I had Chris Frank flow them last year and lets say the results weren't anywhere near what they advertise.
Heads went static at .700" lift and 368 cfm. Exhaust went static at .750" with 225cfm. Mast shows 395@.700" and 249@.700".
.
I can think of 5 sets of heads I'd prefer, but there's already been Procharged LSX cars with alledged better heads not run the times this car has to date.
I think this car can progress but not soley because of just cylinder heads.
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30 cfm would make me upset as well, however I seen the flow data from those heads when they were new and that wasn't the case.
I can think of 5 sets of heads I'd prefer, but there's already been Procharged LSX cars with alledged better heads not run the times this car has to date.
I think this car can progress but not soley because of just cylinder heads.
I can think of 5 sets of heads I'd prefer, but there's already been Procharged LSX cars with alledged better heads not run the times this car has to date.
I think this car can progress but not soley because of just cylinder heads.
Joe's building a 441" billet motor with better heads for no reason then.
It was gaining a lot of power each pull they made as well. Car is very safe on the tune up and they're sneaking more in it with each pass.
Really wish it wouldn't of run out of fuel. I think there is another 50-75 rwhp in tuning as I've been told the timing is very safe currently.
The heads on this motor are also holding it back a lot.
??????
I had Chris Frank flow them last year and lets say the results weren't anywhere near what they advertise.
Heads went static at .700" lift and 368 cfm. Exhaust went static at .750" with 225cfm. Pretty dismal for a car like this. Mast shows 395@.700" and 249@.700".
Joe has a new 441" motor with a custom one off billet block and a set of cast Mozez heads going in next.
Then the F3-121 goes on and shoot for 4.30's.
He'll go low 4.50's with this combo before it's said and done, maybe 4.48-4.49 if the 60' is killer.
Really wish it wouldn't of run out of fuel. I think there is another 50-75 rwhp in tuning as I've been told the timing is very safe currently.
The heads on this motor are also holding it back a lot.
??????
I had Chris Frank flow them last year and lets say the results weren't anywhere near what they advertise.
Heads went static at .700" lift and 368 cfm. Exhaust went static at .750" with 225cfm. Pretty dismal for a car like this. Mast shows 395@.700" and 249@.700".
Joe has a new 441" motor with a custom one off billet block and a set of cast Mozez heads going in next.
Then the F3-121 goes on and shoot for 4.30's.
He'll go low 4.50's with this combo before it's said and done, maybe 4.48-4.49 if the 60' is killer.
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I think you'd be surprised if you actually flowed your heads what the flow curve looks like. I don't think they're as bad as you think.
The main thing I was pointing out was that there was a 30 cfm difference between advertised and actual and that it was dismal.
No one ever asked to my knowledge.
It's a F1X-12.
The main thing I was pointing out was that there was a 30 cfm difference between advertised and actual and that it was dismal.
It's a F1X-12.
Those are some stout numbers for sure thanks for sharing it gives me hope for my build as well but bummer to hear about the heads flow or lack there of compared to what's advertised as those are the same heads i'm running w/ an ERL sleeved 6.0L block.
I'll be happy with 12-1500 WHP from 2 turbos though lol
I'll be happy with 12-1500 WHP from 2 turbos though lol
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Those are some stout numbers for sure thanks for sharing it gives me hope for my build as well but bummer to hear about the heads flow or lack there of compared to what's advertised as those are the same heads i'm running w/ an ERL sleeved 6.0L block.
I'll be happy with 12-1500 WHP from 2 turbos though lol
I'll be happy with 12-1500 WHP from 2 turbos though lol
It would just be nice to have that added 30cfm as it would make more power.
The new combo will be very impressive I hope. It should have no problem turning the bigger blower that Joe couldn't turn this year with the current motor. I really want to see what a F3-121 would do as I feel it's the best sized blower for his combo to make max power.
It certainly is Andy. If you have any questions about heads feel free to call me. I think I gave you my cell phone number.









