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Old Mar 11, 2015 | 04:54 PM
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Joe's C5Z is turning some nice numbers on the dyno and the track... When he went 4.61 they were trying to figure out how to bring the power in faster without the car riding the bumper. Still rode the bumper but they made nice progress.

Next time he should with some the judicious placement of ballast and some chassis adjustments go 4.5's.

Nice job on the cam Martin!

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Old Mar 11, 2015 | 06:49 PM
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Glad to hear is was with an RPM Transmission.They build all my race car transmissions.
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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 01:51 AM
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I didn't know that F1x-12 had to be gear driven.....anyone care to share some knowledge.
It doesn't have to be gear driven. However, it uses an f3 transmission so it will not bolt up to regular brackets that would typically house a d1sc through f2.
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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Joe's C5Z is turning some nice numbers on the dyno and the track... When he went 4.61 they were trying to figure out how to bring the power in faster without the car riding the bumper. Still rode the bumper but they made nice progress.

Next time he should with some the judicious placement of ballast and some chassis adjustments go 4.5's.

Nice job on the cam Martin!

Joe's FB page for the car btw:
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I believe this is the fastest IRS C5 Corvette as well?

Thanks PSJ!
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick

I had Chris Frank flow them last year and lets say the results weren't anywhere near what they advertise.

Heads went static at .700" lift and 368 cfm. Exhaust went static at .750" with 225cfm. Pretty dismal for a car like this. Mast shows 395@.700" and 249@.700".
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1700 whp through unlocked auto.

Those "dismal" heads should sell for a bargain when no longer needed.
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Old Mar 28, 2015 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
That F1X blower is pretty much the cat's meow of all the blowers. Streetable, yet able to produce numbers like that on a well thought out and built motor.

Martin, if this were your car, what heads would you top this motor off with?
You do know how many f1x failures there are correct?
Guys have to keep three blowers on hand to make it thru a weekend!
When the Procharger Tech says they are only rated for 1300hp and won't stand behind their product. ...????


No thanks!
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Old Mar 28, 2015 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Firehawk441
Procharged LSX
4.6 in the 1/8th
1700 whp through unlocked auto.

Those "dismal" heads should sell for a bargain when no longer needed.
When they're 30 cfm off advertised, that's pretty dismal.

It would be very hard to argue that a better set of heads would not produce even more power and quicker et produced.

Better yet, I'll let you know how the new set does.
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Old Mar 28, 2015 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
The heads on this motor are also holding it back a lot.

I had Chris Frank flow them last year and lets say the results weren't anywhere near what they advertise.

Heads went static at .700" lift and 368 cfm. Exhaust went static at .750" with 225cfm. Mast shows 395@.700" and 249@.700".


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Old Mar 28, 2015 | 07:54 PM
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So what are these better heads you are refering too?
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That's one sick looking engine bay
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
When they're 30 cfm off advertised, that's pretty dismal.

It would be very hard to argue that a better set of heads would not produce even more power and quicker et produced.

Better yet, I'll let you know how the new set does.
30 cfm would make me upset as well, however I seen the flow data from those heads when they were new and that wasn't the case.

I can think of 5 sets of heads I'd prefer, but there's already been Procharged LSX cars with alledged better heads not run the times this car has to date.

I think this car can progress but not soley because of just cylinder heads.

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Originally Posted by Firehawk441
30 cfm would make me upset as well, however I seen the flow data from those heads when they were new and that wasn't the case.

I can think of 5 sets of heads I'd prefer, but there's already been Procharged LSX cars with alledged better heads not run the times this car has to date.

I think this car can progress but not soley because of just cylinder heads.
You're right, I'm wrong.

Joe's building a 441" billet motor with better heads for no reason then.
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Old Mar 30, 2015 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
It was gaining a lot of power each pull they made as well. Car is very safe on the tune up and they're sneaking more in it with each pass.

Really wish it wouldn't of run out of fuel. I think there is another 50-75 rwhp in tuning as I've been told the timing is very safe currently.

The heads on this motor are also holding it back a lot.
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I had Chris Frank flow them last year and lets say the results weren't anywhere near what they advertise.

Heads went static at .700" lift and 368 cfm. Exhaust went static at .750" with 225cfm. Pretty dismal for a car like this. Mast shows 395@.700" and 249@.700".

Joe has a new 441" motor with a custom one off billet block and a set of cast Mozez heads going in next.

Then the F3-121 goes on and shoot for 4.30's.

He'll go low 4.50's with this combo before it's said and done, maybe 4.48-4.49 if the 60' is killer.
Remember when I was asking about heads?
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Old Mar 30, 2015 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Firehawk441
Procharged LSX
4.6 in the 1/8th
1700 whp through unlocked auto.

Those "dismal" heads should sell for a bargain when no longer needed.
They would be a upgrade from my heads for sure!!
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Old Mar 31, 2015 | 01:16 AM
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I'm trying to remember, did anyone ever clarify that the 1700 hp in the title was made with an f1x12 and not an f1x? Or am I wrong? Don't feel like reading the whole thing again.
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Old Mar 31, 2015 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LASTLS1
They would be a upgrade from my heads for sure!!
I think you'd be surprised if you actually flowed your heads what the flow curve looks like. I don't think they're as bad as you think.

The main thing I was pointing out was that there was a 30 cfm difference between advertised and actual and that it was dismal.

Originally Posted by Blown06
I'm trying to remember, did anyone ever clarify that the 1700 hp in the title was made with an f1x12 and not an f1x? Or am I wrong? Don't feel like reading the whole thing again.
No one ever asked to my knowledge.

It's a F1X-12.
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Old Mar 31, 2015 | 06:27 PM
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Those are some stout numbers for sure thanks for sharing it gives me hope for my build as well but bummer to hear about the heads flow or lack there of compared to what's advertised as those are the same heads i'm running w/ an ERL sleeved 6.0L block.

I'll be happy with 12-1500 WHP from 2 turbos though lol
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Old Mar 31, 2015 | 09:56 PM
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Btw its a bad *** set up!
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Old Apr 1, 2015 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by TRIXLSXSUPRA
Those are some stout numbers for sure thanks for sharing it gives me hope for my build as well but bummer to hear about the heads flow or lack there of compared to what's advertised as those are the same heads i'm running w/ an ERL sleeved 6.0L block.

I'll be happy with 12-1500 WHP from 2 turbos though lol
I don't think you will have any problem making the power with these heads. They obviously work, and are working well in Joe's case.

It would just be nice to have that added 30cfm as it would make more power.

The new combo will be very impressive I hope. It should have no problem turning the bigger blower that Joe couldn't turn this year with the current motor. I really want to see what a F3-121 would do as I feel it's the best sized blower for his combo to make max power.
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Btw its a bad *** set up!
It certainly is Andy. If you have any questions about heads feel free to call me. I think I gave you my cell phone number.
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