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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 05:11 PM
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Long story shirt. First turbo build just completed. Car had some issues with the computer so I had it re pinned to the 99-02. I never knew that their had to be a vacuum source running to the gate until last night. I've read most threads I could find on it today but still have a couple questions..

What does the vacuum line do? I thought the gate just simply released pressure when it hit X amount. Secondly, when i picked the car up last week, the turbo was spinning slower than I imagined it would and even when revved up to around 2500, I never heard the slightest sound coming from it. Would this be the cause? Turbo is a GT45, Emusa BOV and gate.
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The wastegate has to have a reference or it wont know what pressure to keep. And i can rev my car to 5000 and it wont spool at all. Thats becuase you are not producing a load to produce heat to spool the turbo. some one correct me if im wrong about the wastegate and other stuff cause im defiantly still learning also.
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The wastegate has to have a reference or it wont know what pressure to keep. And i can rev my car to 5000 and it wont spool at all. Thats becuase you are not producing a load to produce heat to spool the turbo. some one correct me if im wrong about the wastegate and other stuff cause im defiantly still learning also.
I got ya. I got a vacuum block on car, I'll tie it in. Does the pressure basically keep the gate shut before spring pressure takes over?
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Old Apr 11, 2015 | 07:58 AM
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Long story shirt. First turbo build just completed. Car had some issues with the computer so I had it re pinned to the 99-02. I never knew that their had to be a vacuum source running to the gate until last night. I've read most threads I could find on it today but still have a couple questions..

What does the vacuum line do? I thought the gate just simply released pressure when it hit X amount. Secondly, when i picked the car up last week, the turbo was spinning slower than I imagined it would and even when revved up to around 2500, I never heard the slightest sound coming from it. Would this be the cause? Turbo is a GT45, Emusa BOV and gate.
There doesnt. Only some modern diesels use vacuum to control the wastegate.

Your car will use positive pressure, ie. boost to control the wastegate.


http://www.turbosmartusa.com/technic...astegate-work/

And just exactly how are you determining how fast is is spinning, and what noises exactly are you expecting it to make ?
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Old Apr 11, 2015 | 10:04 AM
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There doesnt. Only some modern diesels use vacuum to control the wastegate.

Your car will use positive pressure, ie. boost to control the wastegate.


http://www.turbosmartusa.com/technic...astegate-work/

And just exactly how are you determining how fast is is spinning, and what noises exactly are you expecting it to make ?
Like I said, first turbo build. Only turbo cars I've even been around is outlaw cars. It seems though that lots of videos I've watched you can hear the turbo on a rev. I've yet to hear mine. I found the port on my gate to tie it into the vacuum block.

It's still a constant learning process and sometimes even after long reads, your questions still aren't answered. I'll read the link you posted when I get time. Thanks for the replies.
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Your gonna need to tie your wastegate in before the throttle body. ideally near the compressor housing.
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Your gonna need to tie your wastegate in before the throttle body. ideally near the compressor housing.
Their is no port of my housing I don't believe. Do people drill and tap or what? Without going and uncovering the car, I can't think of any ports in front of the throttle body.
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Yes, drill and tap the compressor housing for a pressure reference.
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Ideally, your waste gate should only ever see positive pressure (boost). You can drill and tap your compressor housing or do the same thing with the intake tube pre-throttle body (most likely would have to have a bung welded on as the tubes are thin). Both of those areas see boost and not vacuum.

I emailed Turbosmart and they told me if I cannot use the compressor housing, to use the intake tube pre-throttle body but it should be pressure only.

There are also silicone couplers that have ports in them and I have also seen an "add a port" but I don't remember who made it.
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If you cant do compressor housing. Here what i did. i Just drilled a hole and welded in a nipple fitting literally an inch from the vband compressor housing. Same as having it in the housing but didnt touch my turbo.
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Originally Posted by topgun542
The wastegate has to have a reference or it wont know what pressure to keep. And i can rev my car to 5000 and it wont spool at all. Thats becuase you are not producing a load to produce exhaust volume to spool the turbo. some one correct me if im wrong about the wastegate and other stuff cause im defiantly still learning also.
I fixed it for you.
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If you cant do compressor housing. Here what i did. i Just drilled a hole and welded in a nipple fitting literally an inch from the vband compressor housing. Same as having it in the housing but didnt touch my turbo.
You wouldn't by chance e able to take a pic could you? I have no way of welding a bung in the charge pipe since it aluminum. I could weld a fitting on the turbo though. Just trying to be sure I
Am thinking the same spot you have tapped
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You can see the boost reference barb on my compressor housing.
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 06:31 PM
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Thanks again guys. The guy who repinned my car said to use the port on the bottom side of the throttle body, drivers side. Is their a problem with this?
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SM105K
I fixed it for you.
My bad.... lol late nights...
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