Modifying stock oil pan
#21
#22
If there is ever a loss in pressure (hard braking, accel, cornering) the spring pushes the oil in the accumulator back through the system until it stabilizes.
http://www.accusump.com/accusump_tech.html
Last edited by Forcefed86; 04-24-2015 at 03:12 PM.
#23
I wouldnt fancy running excessive amounts of oil in the pan, maybe 2 litres extra at most. But a lot will be sloshing about inside the block etc with the engine running.
What about some of the Moroso or Canton type pans ?
They should fairly closely replicate the dimensions of the F Body pan if that's what you're using ?
Autokraft is very close, takes up less room up front, with it only a little wider at the main body on the sides.
What about some of the Moroso or Canton type pans ?
They should fairly closely replicate the dimensions of the F Body pan if that's what you're using ?
Autokraft is very close, takes up less room up front, with it only a little wider at the main body on the sides.
#24
I wouldnt fancy running excessive amounts of oil in the pan, maybe 2 litres extra at most. But a lot will be sloshing about inside the block etc with the engine running.
What about some of the Moroso or Canton type pans ?
They should fairly closely replicate the dimensions of the F Body pan if that's what you're using ?
Autokraft is very close, takes up less room up front, with it only a little wider at the main body on the sides.
What about some of the Moroso or Canton type pans ?
They should fairly closely replicate the dimensions of the F Body pan if that's what you're using ?
Autokraft is very close, takes up less room up front, with it only a little wider at the main body on the sides.
#25
Just a 2 qt tank with a spring/piston on one end. Oil fills the tank via pressure form the oil pump compressing the spring.
If there is ever a loss in pressure (hard braking, accel, cornering) the spring pushes the oil in the accumulator back through the system until it stabilizes.
http://www.accusump.com/accusump_tech.html
If there is ever a loss in pressure (hard braking, accel, cornering) the spring pushes the oil in the accumulator back through the system until it stabilizes.
http://www.accusump.com/accusump_tech.html
Stupid simple.. I like it. It is almost like an insurnace policy for your motor.
#26
Yup, super common on road race cars. Drag cars usually don't need it for pressure loss issues with the correct sump. But I've seen several cars that still use them as a pre-lube before engine starts.
#27
Then maybe just look into some proper baffling of the existing pan ?
According to this list, Canton is only 1/2" taller than the LS2, likewise the Autokraft. Both at 5 1/2" whereas the LS2 lists as 5"
Dont see the earlier LS6 Vette big wing type pan listed though, it's quite short I think
https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversio...-oil-pans.html
http://www.stevesnovasite.com/forums...d.php?t=208618
http://www.improvedracing.com/tech/L...dimensions.php
According to this list, Canton is only 1/2" taller than the LS2, likewise the Autokraft. Both at 5 1/2" whereas the LS2 lists as 5"
Dont see the earlier LS6 Vette big wing type pan listed though, it's quite short I think
https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversio...-oil-pans.html
http://www.stevesnovasite.com/forums...d.php?t=208618
http://www.improvedracing.com/tech/L...dimensions.php
#28
I have an accusump as well. Insurance policy just in case. Its only on when I'm drag racing though (On a switch with my transbrake)
#30
#31
I believe the same 5.5 is recommended.
With the engine running, I pulled my lower turbo drain and added oil until it started coming out. (have 2 drain on my pan seen in pics below) I was able to get about 8 qts in before it trickled out the bottom drain. Stock48 and a few others think this causes serious windage issues and claim to have seen as much as 50whp lost by running 1qt “overfull”. Suppose if I had to choose between wiped bearings and a 50 hp though…
Took a few pics last time I had the pan out. With my LC9 eng. running the level drops about 2qts. That was using the High Volume DOD pump.
The pan is a little “nose up”. That’s how it is installed in my car. Oil level would be a little lower if your pan sits level.
This is 5 qts.
Here is 6 qts.
It barely cleared my first drain. (using the larger drain up front now.) But if you add the oil filter capacity and the engine oil passage capacity I still think 6qts would more than clear my first drain. And be clear of the crank/windage tray.
With the engine running, I pulled my lower turbo drain and added oil until it started coming out. (have 2 drain on my pan seen in pics below) I was able to get about 8 qts in before it trickled out the bottom drain. Stock48 and a few others think this causes serious windage issues and claim to have seen as much as 50whp lost by running 1qt “overfull”. Suppose if I had to choose between wiped bearings and a 50 hp though…
Took a few pics last time I had the pan out. With my LC9 eng. running the level drops about 2qts. That was using the High Volume DOD pump.
The pan is a little “nose up”. That’s how it is installed in my car. Oil level would be a little lower if your pan sits level.
This is 5 qts.
Here is 6 qts.
It barely cleared my first drain. (using the larger drain up front now.) But if you add the oil filter capacity and the engine oil passage capacity I still think 6qts would more than clear my first drain. And be clear of the crank/windage tray.
Not sure if it would ever be an issue at the drags, but it is in boats. Factory tech told me that as little as 1 qt over will do it (It came up last week, when I was chasing ghosts looking for a run-ability issue, and ecu had logged several oil pressure losses)
#32
On the bold, if you run too much, the crank will whip oil into a foamy mess, and you will loose oil pressure.
Not sure if it would ever be an issue at the drags, but it is in boats. Factory tech told me that as little as 1 qt over will do it (It came up last week, when I was chasing ghosts looking for a run-ability issue, and ecu had logged several oil pressure losses)
Not sure if it would ever be an issue at the drags, but it is in boats. Factory tech told me that as little as 1 qt over will do it (It came up last week, when I was chasing ghosts looking for a run-ability issue, and ecu had logged several oil pressure losses)