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Old May 19, 2015 | 08:13 AM
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How heavy is the car?

I was able to make 1009 on pump with mp t70's but think they were getting tapped out. 400 cubes. I have t72 turbonetics now and they feel stronger

I used to run mpt 60's before and made around 700 on 15 psi and assload of trq. They would be awesome on a 5.3
Not 100% certain but assuming around 3300 lbs with me in the car.

What Exhaust housing did you have on the MPT70's? I have .96 AR Turbonetics Exhaust housings on them and it helps tremendously with them breathing. Most people seem to run out of steam with these when they run the .68 AR's around 1050whp.
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Old May 19, 2015 | 11:44 AM
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I had 96's on them. Went 156 at 3750 lbs, on about 900-920 whp estimated but no doubt they had abit more in it
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Old May 19, 2015 | 12:45 PM
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What's the price tag on a MP T70 with the .96 AR housing?
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Old May 19, 2015 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
What's the price tag on a MP T70 with the .96 AR housing?
You cant buy MP turbos anymore.
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Old May 19, 2015 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by oscs
You cant buy MP turbos anymore.
Are the On3 comparable?
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Old May 19, 2015 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
Are the On3 comparable?
Great question. I have made it a point to steer clear of cheap turbos.. Im happy for all those that have had good luck with them but ill never buy one.
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Old May 19, 2015 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by oscs
Great question. I have made it a point to steer clear of cheap turbos.. Im happy for all those that have had good luck with them but ill never buy one.
MPT is more expensive than ON3 for sure. Someone here ran 162 with ON3 67MM's so from a power perspective they seem very similar.
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Old May 19, 2015 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by oscs
Great question. I have made it a point to steer clear of cheap turbos.. Im happy for all those that have had good luck with them but ill never buy one.
master power, magnum and on3 all basically the same turbos


ive built 3 setups using on3 7665s all made great power for the boost level


many have saw TT-NOTCH which is a copper color notchback with a Ly6 and 24 psi went 8.6@164

just finished up a lightning with them and 29psi made 931 on a mustang dyn

also did a 2010 camaro with 16 psi made 806rwhp on mustang dyno on 93 octane

they work well for the price
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Old May 19, 2015 | 05:14 PM
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No doubt China turbos work, Seen it first hand more than once. I was just commenting on the fact that MPT cannot be bought in the US anymore so if you find yourself with some shaft play you are SOL..
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Originally Posted by oscs
No doubt China turbos work, Seen it first hand more than once. I was just commenting on the fact that MPT cannot be bought in the US anymore so if you find yourself with some shaft play you are SOL..
They share a lot of parts. Few people around,who can rebuild them still
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Originally Posted by asubennett
They share a lot of parts. Few people around,who can rebuild them still
Youre saying that ON3 parts will directly swap over to MPT?
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Old May 20, 2015 | 08:28 AM
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for cost of rebuild kits and cost of labor vs cost of new


no reason to rebuild them cheap turbos
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Old May 20, 2015 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by oscs
Youre saying that ON3 parts will directly swap over to MPT?
No, no relation between ON3 and MPT.

I'm saying old MPT turbos share a lot of parts with other large name turbos (garret etc.) For instance I have turbonetics parts on my MPT70's.

On3 is their own deal.

MPT used to be Brazil based not China.
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So is MPT still in existence? Is there another alternative to twin On3 70mm .96AR housing turbos that's in that same price ballpark?
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
So is MPT still in existence? Is there another alternative to twin On3 70mm .96AR housing turbos that's in that same price ballpark?
http://www.masterpower.com.br/

They are not a super cheap turbo like so many believe. Note prices on web.
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Originally Posted by asubennett
No, no relation between ON3 and MPT.

I'm saying old MPT turbos share a lot of parts with other large name turbos (garret etc.) For instance I have turbonetics parts on my MPT70's.

On3 is their own deal.

MPT used to be Brazil based not China.
I never claimed MPT to be a bad turbo just not a viable option for a ON3 replacement due to the extreme scarcity of parts and people who know the product. I am aware of where ON3 is manufactured. MPT is still a Brazilian turbo manufacturer and still making turbos. They pulled out of the "U.S. Aftermarket" Years ago. They are a cheaper knock off of garret turbos. Yes there are a few parts that swap over but in no way would i consider a few people who can piece together a MPT a reliable source for rebuilds. In that respect I put them on the same playing field as ON3 or any other knock off style turbo charger. At the end of the day, what is the point? If your looking for a budget turbo just buy an ON3 or spend the money on a name brand.

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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
So is MPT still in existence? Is there another alternative to twin On3 70mm .96AR housing turbos that's in that same price ballpark?
Yea but they currently do not have a U.S. Distributor. MPT is still a live and well and still make a decent turbo.
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Old May 20, 2015 | 10:57 AM
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Master power were Chinese turbos assembled in Brazil

Take a master power apart and a on3 same ****


This was covered in tech long *** time ago


When master power came out they were same price as the on3

Paying a big price tag for a master power was dumb....you start paying big money then you buy better turbos


I've had on3 apart and compare to turbonetics depending on the model copied
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Assembled here manufactured there blah blah.. Point is ON3 is a cheap turbo and MPT is no longer available in the US. If you want an inexpensive turbo with a support staff and a decent warranty i say go with Turbonetics.
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Originally Posted by oscs
Assembled here manufactured there blah blah.. Point is ON3 is a cheap turbo and MPT is no longer available in the US. If you want an inexpensive turbo with a support staff and a decent warranty i say go with Turbonetics.
agree with this.
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