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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 10:12 AM
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Thanks...As a newb, I just don't know how much rwhp can be achieved on SBE (pistons, rings, rod bolts, non-studded heads, etc.). I know I'll have to change the heads and cam, but I insist on not having to cut on the car or loose A/C, radiator position, etc.
Keep on convincing me guys
if thats your only concern then get an STS twin tail pipe turbo kit they are fairly cheap and when you run the turbos in the back you literally don't need an intercooler because the piping running back up to the intake from the back of the car cools down the charge quite a bit. and contrary to what you might think there is virtually no boost lag with those kits because STS did their homework. that and they add a whole new deff to the word sleeper. another good thing bout em is they use a scavenge pump to get the oil back into the block so you dont have to drill and tap the oil pan. under the hood all you see is a charge pipe and maybe a blow off valve depending on where you put it. i think that'd be your best bet.
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Cool28
I had a icon twin turbo car and now a procharger car. This was coming from back in the day but the turbo car was great ran open headers everywhere since turbos help quiet the exhaust. Tuning was a nightmare but again this was when we only had ls1 edit lol.

Have a procharger car now. Installed the kit myself in the driveway and was done.

Sound...turbo people would say it sounded like a jet going down the road when I'd open it up lol. Procharger get that noticing whine which I love and you step on it sounds like a untamed beast.


Turbo will make more power and boost is there almost instantly. Procharged you make max boost at max rpm but it's more forgiving on parts and tires lol.

Can't go wrong either way to be honest.

Personally I'd build the 408 and get a diy turbo and s/c kit if you want to keep costs down.
If I complete the build on the 408 (@4-5K $ more) and spray it 200-300 that will certainly surpass my goal. Or I could get a complete single turbo "kit" for 6K and sell $2-3K worth of my existing parts and pieces.....see my dilemma?
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ragtopz28
Thanks...As a newb, I just don't know how much rwhp can be achieved on SBE (pistons, rings, rod bolts, non-studded heads, etc.).
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...end-lsx-s.html

Lots.
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ragtopz28
If I complete the build on the 408 (@4-5K $ more) and spray it 200-300 that will certainly surpass my goal. Or I could get a complete single turbo "kit" for 6K and sell $2-3K worth of my existing parts and pieces.....see my dilemma?
I take it you can't fabricate your own piping?

$6k is on the high side.

Don't count the cost of a fuel system when doing a comparison. You'll need a pretty stout fuel system for a 408 + nitrous anyway. Injectors/pumps (etc) are usually $1500 of the cost of a turbo kit. Without the fuel portion, you should be able to get a kit for $4k or less.
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
I take it you can't fabricate your own piping?
A welder I am not!
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
I take it you can't fabricate your own piping?

$6k is on the high side.

Don't count the cost of a fuel system when doing a comparison. You'll need a pretty stout fuel system for a 408 + nitrous anyway. Injectors/pumps (etc) are usually $1500 of the cost of a turbo kit. Without the fuel portion, you should be able to get a kit for $4k or less.
True about the fuel system I will have to upgrade that either way...The 6K $ figure comes from a fully optioned kit (K-member, injectors, blanket, filter, ceramic/powder coat, BOV, fuel pump, etc, etc).
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 12:52 PM
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I am a boost man myself i like most is yes the setup costs of a nitrous motor is less but you have to keep the bottle full and they run out. with a turbo or blower motor there is never the chance of having that extra power just die on you. and especially with a turbo the power is more or less only there when you need it. stay out of boost on a gentle cruse or crank the controller to the moon for an extra 300 horse and if something ever happens with the turbo simply pull it out and plug the oil lines and you can still load it onto the trailer. and you can make way more power with an ls on turbo then you can with nitrous IMO. but I'm bias as well.
This is perfect^^
as with my car when im outa boost its like a normal car which is nice... and with my controller i can have mid 500's at the ground or as high as over 900.... tell me what supercharged is gunna do that.. and dont worry bout the SBE.. just make sure to run e85 or like i do, 93+a **** load of meth.. keep everything cool and that will help tons. the cheapest route out of your options is turbo... so lets discuss you questions about turbo setups. lol
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Originally Posted by Kmspeedie
This is perfect^^
as with my car when im outa boost its like a normal car which is nice... and with my controller i can have mid 500's at the ground or as high as over 900.... tell me what supercharged is gunna do that.. and dont worry bout the SBE.. just make sure to run e85 or like i do, 93+a **** load of meth.. keep everything cool and that will help tons. the cheapest route out of your options is turbo... so lets discuss you questions about turbo setups. lol
I'm almost convinced...Looks like I'm gonna have some BA 408" and 346" parts for sale...
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Kmspeedie
This is perfect^^
as with my car when im outa boost its like a normal car which is nice... and with my controller i can have mid 500's at the ground or as high as over 900.... tell me what supercharged is gunna do that.. and dont worry bout the SBE.. just make sure to run e85 or like i do, 93+a **** load of meth.. keep everything cool and that will help tons. the cheapest route out of your options is turbo... so lets discuss you questions about turbo setups. lol
Wait...your on Meth? I'll try E85. That meth **** will rot you teeth
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After doing some more research, I didn't realize how much a full turbo kit would put on the nose of the car (I'm weight conscience). At 130-150#, I may just continue on my path of the nitrous 408"..............
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Originally Posted by ragtopz28
After doing some more research, I didn't realize how much a full turbo kit would put on the nose of the car (I'm weight conscience). At 130-150#, I may just continue on my path of the nitrous 408"..............
If a little weight is the only thing holdin you back, thats not enough good reason to not feel boost lol n i think last weekend you said it was an ls2 block ? if its iron obviously the 408 wouldnt be much weight diff than a turbo aluminum block.
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