I have to say Good Bye!!!
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Thanks, Busch, thats more what im looking for, not a you suck for switching, damn you, stay out of FI section type of post.
Thanks, i will keep you posted, im sure it will take some getting used to but we shall see.
Thanks, i will keep you posted, im sure it will take some getting used to but we shall see.
Dont feel bad about switching, it looks like my blower will be gone this weekend also. I originally bought this ATI to drive around with a M6 but obviously things have changed. It is a great system but I have been spending most of my time at the track and all people care about at the track is the ET and I think I can run a lot better and have less headaches with nitrous..
I think with heads/cam I can run just as well as the blower only but I'll probably just go with a TNT F2 or something.
I think with heads/cam I can run just as well as the blower only but I'll probably just go with a TNT F2 or something.
my best 60 on that tire is a 1.67, what am i doing wrong? would you mind pming me your complete chassis set up?
i'm on the verge of buying a 28" tire but i REALLY dont want to.
i'm on the verge of buying a 28" tire but i REALLY dont want to.
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Originally Posted by kp
Dont feel bad about switching, it looks like my blower will be gone this weekend also. I originally bought this ATI to drive around with a M6 but obviously things have changed. It is a great system but I have been spending most of my time at the track and all people care about at the track is the ET and I think I can run a lot better and have less headaches with nitrous..
I think with heads/cam I can run just as well as the blower only but I'll probably just go with a TNT F2 or something.
I think with heads/cam I can run just as well as the blower only but I'll probably just go with a TNT F2 or something.
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it just seems my car was taking all my time fixing it, never running right and hundreds on parts for trial and error. it sucked!
MM, i never realy hooked to good with turbo either. I hooked a 1.5 a few times.
that was with a full size front tire as well.
my set up is
-batt in spare tires spot, 27x11.5-15 hoosiers running at 10-12 psi depending on the day, East Side performance adj lower control arma and pan hard rod, bmr LCA relocation kit, TQ arm last year was a BMR @-2* this year is a sphone set @-2*, 3.73 gears, steel drive shaft, BMR sub frames, tube, stock springs all around, last year was stock shocks out back hals in front, this year hals out back now. fronts are set @ drive front 6, pass front 7, pass rear 5, drive rear 4. BMR K member and a arms, and i believe thats it.
MM, i never realy hooked to good with turbo either. I hooked a 1.5 a few times.
that was with a full size front tire as well.
my set up is
-batt in spare tires spot, 27x11.5-15 hoosiers running at 10-12 psi depending on the day, East Side performance adj lower control arma and pan hard rod, bmr LCA relocation kit, TQ arm last year was a BMR @-2* this year is a sphone set @-2*, 3.73 gears, steel drive shaft, BMR sub frames, tube, stock springs all around, last year was stock shocks out back hals in front, this year hals out back now. fronts are set @ drive front 6, pass front 7, pass rear 5, drive rear 4. BMR K member and a arms, and i believe thats it.
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When you start building your car to please other people, you stopped building it for your own enjoyment and will soon learn to hate it when it doesn't live up to your expectations. Build the car you want and don't worry about the rest.
Mike
Mike
I was just trying to say that whether the car runs a number with a blower, nitrous, or all motor it doesnt matter to the people at the dragstrip. Anyone can argue which is the best or more 'manly' way to get a car down the track, it doesnt matter to me since I have tried them all several times 
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Thats a good call, and that had alot to do with keeping my turbos was it brings alot of atention, but if i bust out a low 10 or high 9 sec pass, i think that will draw just as much!!
Money is also a factor, after many years of doing this I tend to take the straightest line between two points. To get the car where I want it I think it will be a lot easier in the long run to go low 10s - high 9s with nitrous. Not that I am not able to do it with a blower, it would take me at least a D1 (1000.00 upgrade), bigger fuel pump/injectors/heads/cam/1000.00 belt/pulley setup to do it reliably. The D1 upgrade cost and belt setup will almost pay for a decent short block and the money I sell the blower for will easily handle the fuel system, heads/cam/lid/pulley/n2o kit etc.
I may try something like PSJ down the road and try a race oriented setup but I had this blower on the car since march and I'm getting bored
I may try something like PSJ down the road and try a race oriented setup but I had this blower on the car since march and I'm getting bored
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I was just trying to say that whether the car runs a number with a blower, nitrous, or all motor it doesnt matter to the people at the dragstrip.
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What is so unproven about it? Granted the headers cracking couldnt have been good but that can be cured with a brace to hold the weight of the headers. And what is wrong with doing some research? If you wanted 15psi, get 15psi springs and go with it. If the headers flowed exhaust to the turbos, and the turbos worked, THAT IS PROVEN. Unless you were using plastic parts that melted (that was a joke)
is there not an engineering bone in your body or what? LOL
It isnt going to get much easier than that. If it fit, and functioned, thats proven. It sounds like you were encountering programming trouble which I will admit, from experience, is a PITA. But it is able to be overcome.
What exactly was your boggle?
is there not an engineering bone in your body or what? LOL
It isnt going to get much easier than that. If it fit, and functioned, thats proven. It sounds like you were encountering programming trouble which I will admit, from experience, is a PITA. But it is able to be overcome.
What exactly was your boggle?
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Not sure I agree with that. Nitrous gets the least amount of respect, right or wrong, that's the way it is out there.
Honestly I think the blower cars get about the same amount of attention as nitrous cars from most. I honestly dont care what others think though, most head/cam/stroker guys will say that FI is no better then nitrous and so on and so on - all depends on your perspective and what you are trying to do.
From a bolt on horsepower perspective with a fairly stock engine its hard to beat the ATI/Vortech setups and I prefer to have something like that on a street car. You can argue the point for days and still end up with the same arguments either way
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Originally Posted by S_J_H
Not sure I agree with that. Nitrous gets the least amount of respect, right or wrong, that's the way it is out there.
Mike
After driving the car around this afternoon I decided to hang on to the blower for a while - main reason is I'm too lazy to swap heads again on this car and start all over with tuning. I'll try an SDCE 8 rib and pulley up a couple more PSI and since the small shot of nitrous worked well I'll see how far I can push this thing
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It was getting 15 psi, I Fucked with the kit for 2 years, what are you talking about no enginering??? It isnt proven, it has alot of bad points when it came to blasting it with 15 psi. The turbos are to small and the IC has to sit up straight!
i could have messed with it more, But it was going to be alot more work and Money, the race season is half over and i was out of patiants with it. Its time for a change.
as for atention grabber, a car hitting low 10's high 9's is attention enoph. trust me i see it all the time!
i could have messed with it more, But it was going to be alot more work and Money, the race season is half over and i was out of patiants with it. Its time for a change.
as for atention grabber, a car hitting low 10's high 9's is attention enoph. trust me i see it all the time!
After messing with a set of turbos on a C5 for over a month that were too small I know where you are coming from Noyzee - its frustrating as hell when you throw hour upon hour in the car and it seems to go nowhere. Its even worst when you are doing it for someone else..
I spend a lot of time at the track and when I see a street car go in the 9s its impressive no matter what it took to get it there.
Since your car is well set up I'm sure it will run what you want with the nitrous, keep us posted.
I spend a lot of time at the track and when I see a street car go in the 9s its impressive no matter what it took to get it there.
Since your car is well set up I'm sure it will run what you want with the nitrous, keep us posted.
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It was getting 15 psi, I Fucked with the kit for 2 years, what are you talking about no enginering??? It isnt proven, it has alot of bad points when it came to blasting it with 15 psi. The turbos are to small and the IC has to sit up straight!
i could have messed with it more, But it was going to be alot more work and Money, the race season is half over and i was out of patiants with it. Its time for a change.
as for atention grabber, a car hitting low 10's high 9's is attention enoph. trust me i see it all the time!
i could have messed with it more, But it was going to be alot more work and Money, the race season is half over and i was out of patiants with it. Its time for a change.
as for atention grabber, a car hitting low 10's high 9's is attention enoph. trust me i see it all the time!
What is wrong with using nitrous on top of the turbo.?
i know how you feal though, ive thought a few times just to switch to a Big cubed nitrous set up with a T400. Im still thinking, i know in two years my set up will change significantly, but im not sure which way it will take. Either Two T63-66's, one T88-101, or a 500+ shot.
i know how you feal though, ive thought a few times just to switch to a Big cubed nitrous set up with a T400. Im still thinking, i know in two years my set up will change significantly, but im not sure which way it will take. Either Two T63-66's, one T88-101, or a 500+ shot.
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a-dee, the ic is deff to small, and the way it sits isnt so great.
I have been screwwing with it and just dont have the patiants for it anymore. Racing is supposed to be fun and it hasnt been. so its time for a change.
I have been screwwing with it and just dont have the patiants for it anymore. Racing is supposed to be fun and it hasnt been. so its time for a change.
Anyone wanna buy a 30th ta vert with a tt kit? THis thread is very depressing. Maybe its time to by a Gremelin and put a ford motor in it. In fact maybe its just time to buy a boat, or just turbo the quad and be done...anyone know the suicide hotline #?
Brad, I would honestly do the same thing in your shoes....actually on second thought, if I could re-do this, it would be a 69 Bird vert with twins on a sbc...with a so-called proven kit.
In 7 days I will know if this was all worth it. APE says the car will be done and ready for street car chaos.
Either way I'll be out there pulling for you and your new adventure... expecting high 10's NA after you play with it...and if yo throw 200 on it, that'll possabily one of the few 6-speed 9 sec cars. Now that I set your goals for you...go get building and let NoGo do some magic.
Brad, I would honestly do the same thing in your shoes....actually on second thought, if I could re-do this, it would be a 69 Bird vert with twins on a sbc...with a so-called proven kit.
In 7 days I will know if this was all worth it. APE says the car will be done and ready for street car chaos.
Either way I'll be out there pulling for you and your new adventure... expecting high 10's NA after you play with it...and if yo throw 200 on it, that'll possabily one of the few 6-speed 9 sec cars. Now that I set your goals for you...go get building and let NoGo do some magic.