370/F1A round 2
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We live in a fantastic age for modifying cars when 1300 horsepower is considered the "middle ground".
The ever-growing number of successful junkyard turbo builds have made 1000hp almost commonplace. It's kind of scary.
It's not scary how much power is being made. And it's not scary how easily you can make the power. What's scary is how many people are going from 250hp docile vehicles and stepping into 1000hp cars they built in the garage. With no learning curve. It's scary thinking about how many people have these monsters on the road without the experience to properly handle it. Or the fact that people throw 1000hp motors into 50 year old cars without a second thought to the fact that the car was never supposed to see that sort of power or the speeds that come with it. That's what's scary.
Anyways, we were talking about the abuse of a supercharger on the crank, which is significant, and now a 300 shot was brought into the mix? The only way to be more abusive to your crankshaft than a belt driven blower already is, would be to spray it on top of the blower.
It's as if we actually hate the cars we build. We resent spending money on a good crankshaft, so we try "get our money's worth" out of it, which is actually only an attempt to justify consciously trying to break it.
The box says it's good for over 1000, huh? Let's see how much "over"... That's almost direct sabotage. Literally trying for failure.
And it's awesome.
The ever-growing number of successful junkyard turbo builds have made 1000hp almost commonplace. It's kind of scary.
It's not scary how much power is being made. And it's not scary how easily you can make the power. What's scary is how many people are going from 250hp docile vehicles and stepping into 1000hp cars they built in the garage. With no learning curve. It's scary thinking about how many people have these monsters on the road without the experience to properly handle it. Or the fact that people throw 1000hp motors into 50 year old cars without a second thought to the fact that the car was never supposed to see that sort of power or the speeds that come with it. That's what's scary.
Anyways, we were talking about the abuse of a supercharger on the crank, which is significant, and now a 300 shot was brought into the mix? The only way to be more abusive to your crankshaft than a belt driven blower already is, would be to spray it on top of the blower.
It's as if we actually hate the cars we build. We resent spending money on a good crankshaft, so we try "get our money's worth" out of it, which is actually only an attempt to justify consciously trying to break it.
The box says it's good for over 1000, huh? Let's see how much "over"... That's almost direct sabotage. Literally trying for failure.
And it's awesome.
It would be nice if the stock stroke made in USA stuff was more available. I went with a 3.75" because it's the shortest I could find that was in stock and waited 2 months to get the billet reluctor wheel installed. Crankshafts and cylinder head work wait times ruin the whole build process.
We live in a fantastic age for modifying cars when 1300 horsepower is considered the "middle ground".
The ever-growing number of successful junkyard turbo builds have made 1000hp almost commonplace. It's kind of scary.
It's not scary how much power is being made. And it's not scary how easily you can make the power. What's scary is how many people are going from 250hp docile vehicles and stepping into 1000hp cars they built in the garage. With no learning curve. It's scary thinking about how many people have these monsters on the road without the experience to properly handle it. Or the fact that people throw 1000hp motors into 50 year old cars without a second thought to the fact that the car was never supposed to see that sort of power or the speeds that come with it. That's what's scary.
Anyways, we were talking about the abuse of a supercharger on the crank, which is significant, and now a 300 shot was brought into the mix? The only way to be more abusive to your crankshaft than a belt driven blower already is, would be to spray it on top of the blower.
It's as if we actually hate the cars we build. We resent spending money on a good crankshaft, so we try "get our money's worth" out of it, which is actually only an attempt to justify consciously trying to break it.
The box says it's good for over 1000, huh? Let's see how much "over"... That's almost direct sabotage. Literally trying for failure.
And it's awesome.
The ever-growing number of successful junkyard turbo builds have made 1000hp almost commonplace. It's kind of scary.
It's not scary how much power is being made. And it's not scary how easily you can make the power. What's scary is how many people are going from 250hp docile vehicles and stepping into 1000hp cars they built in the garage. With no learning curve. It's scary thinking about how many people have these monsters on the road without the experience to properly handle it. Or the fact that people throw 1000hp motors into 50 year old cars without a second thought to the fact that the car was never supposed to see that sort of power or the speeds that come with it. That's what's scary.
Anyways, we were talking about the abuse of a supercharger on the crank, which is significant, and now a 300 shot was brought into the mix? The only way to be more abusive to your crankshaft than a belt driven blower already is, would be to spray it on top of the blower.
It's as if we actually hate the cars we build. We resent spending money on a good crankshaft, so we try "get our money's worth" out of it, which is actually only an attempt to justify consciously trying to break it.
The box says it's good for over 1000, huh? Let's see how much "over"... That's almost direct sabotage. Literally trying for failure.
And it's awesome.
It would be nice if the stock stroke made in USA stuff was more available. I went with a 3.75" because it's the shortest I could find that was in stock and waited 2 months to get the billet reluctor wheel installed. Crankshafts and cylinder head work wait times ruin the whole build process.
Damn near impossible to find a good in stock, Stock stroke crank.. The 408 craze has taken up all the shelf space.
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I understand that you never said you planned on spraying the 300 shot, but it was brought up. And I was just making an observation that a crank driven blower and a large pill of nitrous is about as abusive to the crank as you can possibly get.
As for your results, old vs new, I would have thought the new heads would have given you a little more. Still fantastic numbers, though.
As for your results, old vs new, I would have thought the new heads would have given you a little more. Still fantastic numbers, though.
I understand that you never said you planned on spraying the 300 shot, but it was brought up. And I was just making an observation that a crank driven blower and a large pill of nitrous is about as abusive to the crank as you can possibly get.
As for your results, old vs new, I would have thought the new heads would have given you a little more. Still fantastic numbers, though.
As for your results, old vs new, I would have thought the new heads would have given you a little more. Still fantastic numbers, though.
Thanks brother. All seems well so far. It still had the tune in the carrier from the previous setup so ive been driving it a good bit and getting into boost a little while watching afr ect. After about 200 miles I changed the break oil and there was no metal in the filter and no chunks in the oil. Much different than the last time haha. Only a light metallic dusting this time around. I think all is well so far.
Well this was a good read. Im putting a 6.0 together for a F1A in the future. Although im not going to go anywere near that 900 range for now... aftermarket crank seems like a good investment in the long run.
370/F1A round 2 Op what tire size are you running? Im in the middle of a similiar build a 403 with a f1a max psi im going to run is 18 pounds tho. I have a 26 inch tire on the car now with a t56 with stock gearing. Im spinning mine to 6800 also
Good to see you are back up and running. Bob
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I've got 300 miles on it and 2 oil changes. I drained the break in oil out at 200 miles and put some regular oil in for another 100 miles to "clean it out". it had more metallic dust in the drained oil but drain plug and oil filter were as clean as can be. Hopefully this one is fine. The metal dust the second change worries me a little but nothing i can do now. Either way, its got fresh VR1 oil in it now and getting dropped off Monday to get tuned.
Anyone have any insight on the metallic dust in the oil still? Normal? I haven't exactly been easy on the motor. No big chunks. Just super fine glitter. Its supposed to have coated race bearing in it this time for what its worth.
Anyone have any insight on the metallic dust in the oil still? Normal? I haven't exactly been easy on the motor. No big chunks. Just super fine glitter. Its supposed to have coated race bearing in it this time for what its worth.