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Dec 30, 2015 | 09:01 PM

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Pro- charger or lsa blower

My question is I currently have a psc1 lsx set up about 8 -10* psi of boost.... I want to swap this set up for a lsa blower setup.... Would it be worth it or just a waste of time and money.... Looking for around 500-550 to the wheel with a lil room to grow with what ever set....

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I have a ls3 that is .005 over forged pistons and arp rod bolt.... Using a ls9 cam and springs basic valve job... Ls3 intake 60* injectors and kooks 1 7/8 mid headers....

Dec 30, 2015 | 09:28 PM

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How much power does it make right now ? An Ls3 on 10#'s should be making 550 hp.

Dec 30, 2015 | 09:59 PM

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I messed up the first block so just getting things back together so I haven't had it on the dyno yet with this set up (had a 6.0 iron 317 stock with this same set up well I had a ls6 cam and auto trans made 323hp 324tq to the wheels couldn't get more then 5 or 6 psi
This is with pro charger

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Dec 30, 2015 | 10:00 PM

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I added the ls9 cam and now using a t56

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Dec 31, 2015 | 06:28 AM

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That sounds pretty low to me! I would think you should be making that n/a! I'm thinking the charger should at least net 70-100 additional hp

Dec 31, 2015 | 07:43 AM

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That sounds pretty low to me! I would think you should be making that n/a! I'm thinking the charger should at least net 70-100 additional hp

I agree, that is really low in power. Something is not right with this combination. Bob

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Dec 31, 2015 | 07:46 AM

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With your combination you should easily hit 600 rwhp with the ProCharger. Is it a P-1SC or a P-1SC-1? Bob

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Dec 31, 2015 | 09:11 AM

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P1sc-1... With a 4.0 pulley.... I now have a 3.78 pulley

I'd keep the ProCharger, you already have it and it will easily hit your power goals, although you may need to go down to a 3.55 pulley. Bob

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Dec 31, 2015 | 01:46 PM

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Before you do anything else, figure out what is wrong with your current combination and/or tune. You are almost 200hp too low from where you should be at this moment.

Dec 31, 2015 | 02:05 PM

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No way I would switch to a LSA setup. Fix what you have and keep it.

Dec 31, 2015 | 02:39 PM

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My old z06 with P1sc & borla catback only made 500whp @5psi on mustang dyno...

Dec 31, 2015 | 03:28 PM

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My old z06 with P1sc & borla catback only made 500whp @5psi on mustang dyno...

500 rwhp is not bad for only 5 psi. he was only at 323 rwhp. Bob

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Dec 31, 2015 | 11:28 PM

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I had an '04 Z06 with P1SC and the dual intercoolers otherwise 100% stock and it made 490rwhp on 6psi and super low timing for 91 octane with factory cats/etc.

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You can easily make 650-700 rwhp (m6) with a maxed out P1sc.

You have something seriously wrong if you're only making 323rwhp... Like the belt is missing.

I'd start looking at everything closely.

No way would I go to an LSA blower from a centrifugal... You just need to fix what you have.

Looking at your graph and how the power falls off terribly, I'd guess your belt has massive slip. If you are only getting 5-6 psi with a 4" pulley, there is your clue.

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I wouldn't have whoever was tuning your first combination have anything to do with your new set-up. Bob

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I think 650-700 with a p1sc is probably doable, but I wouldn't act like it's a cake walk.

But yea, there is something major wrong here.

Jan 4, 2016 | 09:20 AM

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I wouldn't have whoever was tuning your first combination have anything to do with your new set-up. Bob

I was thinking the same thing.... I was think tuner should have been able to see why the car was under power and make suggestion on why it was so low... Like I need more fuel or too much knock just point me in some type of direction not just here are your number now pay me.... Cause now I am left here scratching my head on where it went wrong....

When I said something to them the helper said number are not that far off because supercharger eats hp told me I have a pretty much stock set up and i did pick up about 75hp over stock with the blower.... Told me that the numbers people were telling me were engine dyno numbers not rwhp.... To be honest I know that it was bull

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Wow! They clearly should not be in this business. Bob

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I had a cam swapped 6.0 with stock 317 heads milled a tad and a t56 put down 390/400. You should make what you did without the procharger even through the auto.