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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 07:05 AM
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I was planning on just using the 6 rib so I can then use my stock balancer. Do you strongly suggest I switching to the 8rib on my p1?
The 6 rib kit uses a much smaller 6.0" crank pulley, which causes you to use a smaller blower pulley to make boost. Is your head unit a P-1SC or a P-1SC-1? Bob
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Originally Posted by Bob@BruteSpeed
The 6 rib kit uses a much smaller 6.0" crank pulley, which causes you to use a smaller blower pulley to make boost. Is your head unit a P-1SC or a P-1SC-1? Bob
It's a P-1SC.
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Camarokid327
It's a P-1SC.
http://shop.brutespeed.com/ATI-DPxxx...-ATI-DPxxx.htm
With your engine combination you are going to need a 3.0" pulley for the six rib. Bob
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Hey, if you got it for a great price, then all the better. You will be extremely happy and satisfied with it.
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No kidding. If you paid right at $1,000 for it, I'd say you got a good deal. I still can't believe used P1SC Prochargers sell for $1,600+.
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 11:30 AM
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Go 8 rib and be done!

I SHOULD have my 8 rib Procharger crank pulley and 60# SD injectors up for sale soon. I might try and see what this F1A will do a 74k rpm : )

I would skip on the 255 pump and go 340LPH or higher from the start.
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 04:26 PM
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I second the notion to skip the 255 and go straight to a 340 or higher pump. Keeps you from having to deal with it again WHEN you want more power.
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Is the 340LPH pump a direct replacement, or does it require quite a bit of modifications to the stock bucket? Do you guys run just the 340LPH pump, or do you run it with the stock pump?
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Originally Posted by Camarokid327
I know I will probably catch flack from some but I picked up a P1 head unit freshly rebuild with zero miles for a price I couldn't pass up (under 1k shipped) and would work for my budget and goal.

Few questions before I place an order with Bob and other purchases:

1. What size pulleys (crank/head unit) do I need to make 7-8 psi with my current setup?
2. Will a Racetronix 255 w/ hot wire kit and 60# injectors be fine? (planning on running a Snow Performance Stage 1 kit as well)
3. Big Red or black Proflo bypass valve on FMIC set up? Proflo valve work with truck hat/filter??
4. Has anyone been able to mount a FMIC and keep some of the foam bumper? Leaving some around the intercooler?


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Originally Posted by Bob@BruteSpeed
http://shop.brutespeed.com/ATI-DPxxx...-ATI-DPxxx.htm
With your engine combination you are going to need a 3.0" pulley for the six rib. Bob
Thanks Bob! I will be giving you a call sometime next week to place an order for pulleys, j bracket, truck inlet/hat, bets, oils, and a few other misc parts!


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Hey, if you got it for a great price, then all the better. You will be extremely happy and satisfied with it.
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No kidding. If you paid right at $1,000 for it, I'd say you got a good deal. I still can't believe used P1SC Prochargers sell for $1,600+.
Totally agree, which is why I jumped on it right away! I wouldn't pay $1300 + for just a P1SC head unit, if that was the case I would definitely go the D1 route.

I also just picked up the black Pro-Flow surge valve, spal 16" (straight blade) fan, and two piece Procharger shroud for $145.

Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
Is the 340LPH pump a direct replacement, or does it require quite a bit of modifications to the stock bucket? Do you guys run just the 340LPH pump, or do you run it with the stock pump?
I don't believe it is. I came across this thread that has some good info in it.

walbro 255 vs aeromotive 340 stealth

Parts needed to upgrade to a 340 pump:
(1) - Aftermarket fuel pressure regulator since the stock one in-tank won't be able to keep up.
(2) - Upgraded wiring harness with new bulkhead connector Racetronix posted above.
(3) - Need to run a -6an return line to the return port on the bucket and remove the stock regulator.
(4) - Need to either run a new -8AN feed line or you can use the stock line and find a fitting to cap off the port on the T junction where the lines split apart near the fuel filter and return line.

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Originally Posted by Camarokid327
Thanks Bob! I will be giving you a call sometime next week to place an order for pulleys, j bracket, truck inlet/hat, bets, oils, and a few other misc parts!






Totally agree, which is why I jumped on it right away! I wouldn't pay $1300 + for just a P1SC head unit, if that was the case I would definitely go the D1 route.



I don't believe it is. I came across this thread that has some good info in it.

walbro 255 vs aeromotive 340 stealth

Parts needed to upgrade to a 340 pump:
(1) - Aftermarket fuel pressure regulator since the stock one in-tank won't be able to keep up.
(2) - Upgraded wiring harness with new bulkhead connector Racetronix posted above.
(3) - Need to run a -6an return line to the return port on the bucket and remove the stock regulator.
(4) - Need to either run a new -8AN feed line or you can use the stock line and find a fitting to cap off the port on the T junction where the lines split apart near the fuel filter and return line.

Sounds good, thanks! Bob
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 07:56 AM
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You going to go with a front mount cooler or the Procharger twins ?
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by conan
You going to go with a front mount cooler or the Procharger twins ?
I'm going with an ebay CXracing FMIC setup. Just debating on whether to go with a black intercooler or not. I think a black one would look badass (subtle and stealthy) behind my SLP SS grill when I trim it up.

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I think the black one will look nice too. I'm jealous of the deal you got on the Procharger.
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Nice, The front mount is so much cleaner looking and easier to deal with than the twins. I don't think the color will mater much with that grille, you wont be able to see much back there. I would also recommend getting a tube bumper support to hang the cooler from. I got my support from Burkhart chassis. Made the job nice and easy.
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
I think the black one will look nice too. I'm jealous of the deal you got on the Procharger.
I found it on one of the fbody craiglist facebook pages. He originally wanted $1200 but talked him down

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Nice, The front mount is so much cleaner looking and easier to deal with than the twins. I don't think the color will mater much with that grille, you wont be able to see much back there. I would also recommend getting a tube bumper support to hang the cooler from. I got my support from Burkhart chassis. Made the job nice and easy.
I'm planning on cutting my bumper/grille like the image below... so you will definitely be able to see a good amount of the intercooler.



I'm planning to mount my intercooler the same way Alchemist did. I think I should have enough room as I don't believe the Camaro bumpers are as deep as the T/A's and their fog light holes. We'll see!

Has anyone been able to keep some of the impact foam around the top and sides of the intercooler? To keep a little support for the front bumper cover? I know a tubular frame support would be easier but just seeing if its been done before.
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Sorry your pic was too dark around the grille to see how much was cut out.

I have seen peoples pics of the cooler mounted in the middle of the bumper support and they left some of the foam on each side. I chose the tube support to keep the OEM foam and frame in one piece and not cut it all up.
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I've got my low mileage P1SC-1 listed up for sale right now for 1,600 as I just Bought a F1A from Bob aswell as a bunch of other goodies. But the P1sc-1 isn't no slouch. It's a noticeable improvement over standard P1SC. I put down over 625whp on 10lbs. Took inlet off and saw 14lbs. By my butt dyno was close to 700ish and I was spinning it 2k below max impeller speed.
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I know the setups might be quite different, but some good information. http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1755330
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Old Mar 27, 2016 | 05:32 PM
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Is there a difference in performance from the twins to a front mount cooler? I have been thinking about a D1 myself.
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