Street tires that hook
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From: Norn Iron
888's are very good tyres....but also a totally different class of tyre than the likes of a 555R
I can see why they'd be preferred on a car that can handle vs a softer more wobbly tyre. But ultimately I'd say the 555R will offer more traction in almost all cases.
I can see why they'd be preferred on a car that can handle vs a softer more wobbly tyre. But ultimately I'd say the 555R will offer more traction in almost all cases.
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And they are still cars that will feel and drive better with a tyre like an 888 than a softer sidewall 555R
And with their weight distribution etc, they simply dont need the really soft stuff to get good traction that a front engined car would do. So it's a win win for all uses.
And with their weight distribution etc, they simply dont need the really soft stuff to get good traction that a front engined car would do. So it's a win win for all uses.
The R888 has been tested next to the 555r in our little group and the R888 put down better times. The other guys run Hoosier DR.. Both soft tires. They run them for a reason. This is a common subject with lots of testing and real world data. Not "should" "could" nonsense. These guys Vbox runs to back up the data. The Toyo TQ's are really good tires too. Also a 1300whp Porsche 996 still needs a soft tire to get traction.. The 555r sucked even on these rear engine RWD cars. These guys are 60-130 in the mid 3's on TQ's and hoosiers vs. low 4's on the 555r
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I have the older Toyo RA1 335/18s and they hook almost as well as the hoosier drag radials from a roll.
60 ft is much better with the Hoosiers But keep in mind the Hoosiers are a really agressive drag radial and more of "cheater slick" with 2 grooves and won't work at all in the rain.
the R888 is the newer model of the RA1 and hooks even better, similar compound, better tread design.
although I like the "look" of the old RA1
60 ft is much better with the Hoosiers But keep in mind the Hoosiers are a really agressive drag radial and more of "cheater slick" with 2 grooves and won't work at all in the rain.
the R888 is the newer model of the RA1 and hooks even better, similar compound, better tread design.
although I like the "look" of the old RA1
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I have the older Toyo RA1 335/18s and they hook almost as well as the hoosier drag radials from a roll.
60 ft is much better with the Hoosiers But keep in mind the Hoosiers are a really agressive drag radial and more of "cheater slick" with 2 grooves and won't work at all in the rain.
the R888 is the newer model of the RA1 and hooks even better, similar compound, better tread design.
although I like the "look" of the old RA1
60 ft is much better with the Hoosiers But keep in mind the Hoosiers are a really agressive drag radial and more of "cheater slick" with 2 grooves and won't work at all in the rain.
the R888 is the newer model of the RA1 and hooks even better, similar compound, better tread design.
although I like the "look" of the old RA1
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From: Norn Iron
I have the older Toyo RA1 335/18s and they hook almost as well as the hoosier drag radials from a roll.
60 ft is much better with the Hoosiers But keep in mind the Hoosiers are a really agressive drag radial and more of "cheater slick" with 2 grooves and won't work at all in the rain.
the R888 is the newer model of the RA1 and hooks even better, similar compound, better tread design.
although I like the "look" of the old RA1
60 ft is much better with the Hoosiers But keep in mind the Hoosiers are a really agressive drag radial and more of "cheater slick" with 2 grooves and won't work at all in the rain.
the R888 is the newer model of the RA1 and hooks even better, similar compound, better tread design.
although I like the "look" of the old RA1
Hence Toyo have come out with a new R888R tyre although availability on that still seems poor despite it being out for over a year. Probably isnt any difference in performance, it's mostly down to bullshit European labelling nonsense they had to change and claiming the soft 888's were too inefficient to be sold as road legal tyres. Total croc of ****.
new version anyway.
http://www.toyo.co.uk/tire/pattern/proxes-r888r
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I was referring to the Toyo Proxes TQ which is listed as a "drag" tire. Although the other one that was mentioned looks interesting. Here's the TQ:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....odel=Proxes+TQ
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....odel=Proxes+TQ
I was referring to the Toyo Proxes TQ which is listed as a "drag" tire. Although the other one that was mentioned looks interesting. Here's the TQ:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....odel=Proxes+TQ
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....odel=Proxes+TQ
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From: THORNTON, PA (NEAR PHILLY)
I run a 28x11.50 et street on a 15 inch rim on both of my cars. both 71-72 A-bodys. My first car ran a best 60 of 1.74 with QA1 adjustable uppers, adj shocks.. blah blah blah all the goodies all set up well. My second car I cut the rear coil and did absolutely nothing. The shock bushings were missing and all the control arm bushings are blown out. The car just pulled a 1.72 60 foot on the second time to the strip. Like most are saying here, it is about how power is applied along with experience of what to try.
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Or MT also offer some very wide 16's....if you have the room and wheels to accommodate them
http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/s...StreetRadialII
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From: THORNTON, PA (NEAR PHILLY)
Went with the Toyo TQ's 275/50/16, $350 shipped to my door from Tire Rack. I did a search and it's generally a liked tire and seems to get a bit better reviews than the 555r, but its pretty much understood that there no M/T, Hoosiers etc. but I just need a good street tire.
W/o changing the subject too much, can anybody suggest some changes I can make to the chassis to get this thing to hook a bit better? Its a 96 Mustang with stock front susp. and adjustable rear upper/lwr control arms with poly ends - that's about it.
This is 100% street car keep this in mind.
W/o changing the subject too much, can anybody suggest some changes I can make to the chassis to get this thing to hook a bit better? Its a 96 Mustang with stock front susp. and adjustable rear upper/lwr control arms with poly ends - that's about it.
This is 100% street car keep this in mind.
I hear what you are saying about suspension and power but what makes the Futura super sport GLS tires stand out.
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From: THORNTON, PA (NEAR PHILLY)
Wanted to update my experience with the Toyo TQ's - so far they seem to be working excellent, especially considering that it's 45* outside and there still salt dust on the road from a dam snow storm yesterday! Not to mention I'm driving around with 28 psi in the tires and not heating them up. I can spin them off the line a bit but then it grabs and goes. Held 16 psi up top but the boost control ramped that in later in the MPH curve.
Excited to see how these will do when the ambient climb a bit and the roads a clear from salt/dust!!!
Excited to see how these will do when the ambient climb a bit and the roads a clear from salt/dust!!!
