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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 12:54 PM
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Anybody ever back to back tested a Chinese 78/75 vs a pt7675 or BW s475? I know power output will be higher but I'm interested in spool characteristics. I swapped from an lq4 to a L33 this year and now my s10 won't 60' to save it's life. I could build 9-10psi on the 2step with antilag with the 6.0 and now I'm lucky to get 4-5psi with the 5.3L.
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 02:57 PM
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Anybody ever back to back tested a Chinese 78/75 vs a pt7675 or BW s475? I know power output will be higher but I'm interested in spool characteristics. I swapped from an lq4 to a L33 this year and now my s10 won't 60' to save it's life. I could build 9-10psi on the 2step with antilag with the 6.0 and now I'm lucky to get 4-5psi with the 5.3L.
Just had a 7876 delivered to my door today, will be installing Friday night. Will report back. It will be replacing my pt7675
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You should have no problem Spooling that turbo. What is your AFR and timing in that zone?
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 08:32 PM
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I went from a s475 to a 7875 and the difference was huge. The s475 wouldn't build boost on my 355 till 4200, the 7875 was all in by 3500. Glad I made the change.
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 10:09 PM
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You should have no problem Spooling that turbo. What is your AFR and timing in that zone?
Timing is around 25* until I start seeing boost and then it pulls to 17.5* at full boost. Afr is 12.5 until it hits 5psi and then it drops to 11.5. The problem is I have a rear mount and a tight converter. The converter is perfect on top end at 21psi but I can only get to 3,100 on the foot brake. With the 6.0 I could build 5-6psi at 3,100 on the 2step and then hit the antilag and jump to 10psi real quick. With 5.3 it only builds 2-3psi and flat lines. If I hit the antilag it looses too much torque and drops off the 2step.
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ssmonte7875
I went from a s475 to a 7875 and the difference was huge. The s475 wouldn't build boost on my 355 till 4200, the 7875 was all in by 3500. Glad I made the change.
So the s475 was worse? Forced inductions is telling me that it should be better. Was the s475 a t4 with 83mm hot side?
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Old Aug 4, 2016 | 03:29 AM
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No, i had a standard 1.32ar 96mm.
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Originally Posted by ssmonte7875
I went from a s475 to a 7875 and the difference was huge. The s475 wouldn't build boost on my 355 till 4200, the 7875 was all in by 3500. Glad I made the change.
That's odd... my S480 would build boost a lot earlier then that on a 325. How much power/boost are you making with the 7875?
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I'm not sure if you are asking me but I'm around 725rwhp@21psi so far.

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Originally Posted by 2ktransam
I'm not sure if you are asking me but I'm around 725rwhp@21psi so far.
That's not bad at all for a $400 turbo!

I used to have a 7675 and it came online real fast on a 5.3L. When you say you start pulling timing when you see boost, at what boost level? I usually leave timing in until it gets 5-7lbs going then start pulling it out slowly. Same like you said with A/F basically but I would pull that out slower as well. I don't dip into the 11's until over 10lbs. Assume your on E85 or something better then pump running 21lbs at 17.5 degrees?
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Originally Posted by ssmonte7875
I went from a s475 to a 7875 and the difference was huge. The s475 wouldn't build boost on my 355 till 4200, the 7875 was all in by 3500. Glad I made the change.
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That's not bad at all for a $400 turbo!

I used to have a 7675 and it came online real fast on a 5.3L. When you say you start pulling timing when you see boost, at what boost level? I usually leave timing in until it gets 5-7lbs going then start pulling it out slowly. Same like you said with A/F basically but I would pull that out slower as well. I don't dip into the 11's until over 10lbs. Assume your on E85 or something better then pump running 21lbs at 17.5 degrees?
I'm running 93 and meth. I was running 50/50 93/110 for safety while I was testing but I'm just going to go back to straight 93 and 2 m14 meth injectors. I ramp the timing out slowly starting at 3psi and am down to 17.5* at 15psi. I keep about 18-20* in until 12psi. The afr isn't as easy with a stock pcm. Can't set my commanded afr higher than 100kpa so I just lean it out in the ve table until I get to 5psi or so. By 7psi I'm at 11.5 afr and keep it there all way up to 21psi.

I have a pt7675 on my Silverado that doesn't get raced anymore so I might swap the turbos and see if there is a difference. I'm sure the pt will be a little more efficient per psi and probably make make a little more maxed out. I've always heard that the extra 2mm on the compressor wheel slows spool a little so it's worth a shot.
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
That's odd... my S480 would build boost a lot earlier then that on a 325. How much power/boost are you making with the 7875?
I was running 10.0 @ 137 on 17psi @ 3800lbs with that setup.
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Originally Posted by ssmonte7875
I was running 10.0 @ 137 on 17psi @ 3800lbs with that setup.
Nice, thats making some good power. That's faster then I ran at 20lbs with the PT7675CEA with my car being about 4k lbs, I went 10.1 at about 135. Then I turned it up to about 24lbs and ran 9.80@140 before swapping it out. Seems to be very comparable except the 7875 is a killer deal.
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Nice, thats making some good power. That's faster then I ran at 20lbs with the PT7675CEA with my car being about 4k lbs, I went 10.1 at about 135. Then I turned it up to about 24lbs and ran 9.80@140 before swapping it out. Seems to be very comparable except the 7875 is a killer deal.
I've been 6.37@113 in the 1/8 so far with 3,700lb race weight 21psi. I think it would run 5.99 if could 60' better than 1.65
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Originally Posted by 2ktransam
I've been 6.37@113 in the 1/8 so far with 3,700lb race weight 21psi. I think it would run 5.99 if could 60' better than 1.65
Nice! Ya I got my 60' down to 1.4-1.5 and 1/8th dropped to 6.0-6.1.
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Nice! Ya I got my 60' down to 1.4-1.5 and 1/8th dropped to 6.0-6.1.
Last year with the 6.0 I could get 1.48 60' but the 5.3 won't build boost so the 60' sucks. Last year it was running 6.39@109 with the better 60'.
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Did the install last night, this turbo does NOT spool quite like the pt7675....but the car still runs Ok. Seat of the pants, I might be a touch down on power as well. But then again it could be all mental, as this on3 is much more quiet than the precision so who k n ows.
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Originally Posted by ssmonte7875
I went from a s475 to a 7875 and the difference was huge. The s475 wouldn't build boost on my 355 till 4200, the 7875 was all in by 3500. Glad I made the change.
Comparing a 75/82 to a 96/88 makes perfect sense
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Originally Posted by rotary1307cc
Comparing a 75/82 to a 96/88 makes perfect sense
Just answering the op's question. Not sure what your issue is with that.
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Originally Posted by ssmonte7875
Just answering the op's question. Not sure what your issue is with that.
You didn't even state what turbine. If it had been the 83/74 it would act neat identical to the 7675
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