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Old Nov 27, 2016 | 11:31 PM
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Got an all out twin turbo 347ci need to know what's the best studs to put in the block? If ya can help what part number? I was thinking about these from Bryan tooley racing?
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Old Nov 28, 2016 | 01:05 AM
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Your going to split a sleeve before those even matter but sure why not, you can reuse them in the next motor.
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Old Nov 28, 2016 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by MY_2K_Z
Your going to split a sleeve before those even matter but sure why not, you can reuse them in the next motor.
It's an iron block so you think the block will fail before these will? And do you think I will have a problem blowing head gaskets?
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Old Nov 28, 2016 | 06:04 AM
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Define "all out" ?

And isnt $570 a little pricey for standard ARP head studs ?

Most other google results come back over $100 cheaper.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Define "all out" ?

And isnt $570 a little pricey for standard ARP head studs ?

Most other google results come back over $100 cheaper.
The lower grade ones are cheaper. Those are the mid grades and then they have the aged 625+
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Old Nov 28, 2016 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 03sierraslt
The lower grade ones are cheaper. Those are the mid grades and then they have the aged 625+
Yes, and they all carry different part numbers ?
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Old Nov 28, 2016 | 08:41 AM
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Define "all out" ?

And isnt $570 a little pricey for standard ARP head studs ?

Most other google results come back over $100 cheaper.
All out as in drag car... iron Block 5.3l bored out to a 5.7l (3.903)
Callies Dragonslayer crank and ultra i beam rods, wiseco forged turbo pistons
AFR 230cc heads, BTR .660 springs, Johnson lifters, Jesel Rockers Holley Hi ram intake and EFI, Holley HP ENGINE management, twin 76-68's all going in a
2100lb 88 Cavalier 10.5 Car

So with that being said, what's the best Studs for a Gen 3 engine, because I've herd there bad about lifting heads or blowing a head gasket?
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Old Nov 28, 2016 | 08:56 AM
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At a certain power level you will begin to reach the limits of the 4 bolt clamping force. To crutch this you can use 625+ studs or have the block machined for 1/2" studs.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Yes, and they all carry different part numbers ?

Yes they do. I get ya, I was just pointing out. A quick price search reveals various prices.
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Old Nov 28, 2016 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by rivers09
All out as in drag car... iron Block 5.3l bored out to a 5.7l (3.903)
Callies Dragonslayer crank and ultra i beam rods, wiseco forged turbo pistons
AFR 230cc heads, BTR .660 springs, Johnson lifters, Jesel Rockers Holley Hi ram intake and EFI, Holley HP ENGINE management, twin 76-68's all going in a
2100lb 88 Cavalier 10.5 Car

So with that being said, what's the best Studs for a Gen 3 engine, because I've herd there bad about lifting heads or blowing a head gasket?
ARP custom aged studs.
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Old Nov 28, 2016 | 01:01 PM
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If it genuinely is an all out build, then either the CA625 or go 1/2"

As CA625 requires no machining work...this would be the most convenient and apparently clamp harder than a regular 1/2" setup.

Damn they're pricey though
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I love $1500 rods in a $100 block
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Old Nov 29, 2016 | 12:53 AM
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I recall a clamp force test done to compare the CA625 vs. the 1/2" studs. The 1/2" studs had more clamping force but it wasn't by much. Either way is wash cost wise. The price on the CA625's is astronomical, but you then have the machining bill for the 1/2" conversion.
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And when I tried to buy CA625's over a year ago....waited and got fucked about for 5 months by one vendor. Eventually cancelled and ordered from another.

Waited 3 months with them and finally gave up.

Any studs will be better than fresh air. But ease of use, if you can get them the CA625's are probably best option.

Plus....dril/tap size for a lot of the 1/2" studs is actually a little smaller than 11mm. But with a bare block the hole OD for the threads is around 11mm.

So I'd be a little concerned about base strength in the block. Perhaps more so with alloy than iron
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Old Nov 29, 2016 | 07:41 AM
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I went with the ARP 2000 12 point pro series got them for $455
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Originally Posted by gnx7
I love $1500 rods in a $100 block
$1500 dollar rods in a $100 block thats been bored .120!

IMO if you are going all out don’t waste your time with a stock block, it’s the weak link… esp after you bored the beejebus out of it.
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I personally don't see the point of overboring a 5.3 block that you plan on throwing a ton of boost at.
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Old Nov 29, 2016 | 12:22 PM
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We will shall see... y'all laughing now but don't sleep on me
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Originally Posted by Forcefed86
IMO if you are going all out don’t waste your time with a stock block, it’s the weak link… esp after you bored the beejebus out of it.
Bingo. China studs (hell, stock head bolts) have been taken to the limit of a stock block/crank and IMO the limits of reliable clamping (7s@170 3000lbs car)
After that-you have to go 6 bolt.

That being said, why both spend the money? But your obviously not shy about that, so fire away! To answer your question, yes, those are the best available
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Originally Posted by rivers09
We will shall see... y'all laughing now but don't sleep on me
Not sure what that means, but I wasn't laughing at you. The meat between the cyls on the blocks once bored that far is pretty thin. It's likely to crack between the cyls around 1000-1300 crank hp depending on how lucky you got with your block thickness.
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