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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 07:01 PM
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I race a nitrous lsx GMC pickup but I tow it with my daily driver. It is an 02 extended cab Sierra Z71 with 80,000. It is a very nice truck and I love it to death but it just doesn't really have as much *** as I would like for it to. It has a stock 5.3 besides a K&N intake. I've been toying around the idea of possibly putting a procharger on to help get the torque up on this thing. Would a Whipple be better? I'm thinking I want a supercharger instead of turbo since I just want bottom end grunt and easier install. I figured I could put my money in this truck instead of putting it towards a new one. Any ideas and experiences of people doing this is welcomed.
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I race a nitrous lsx GMC pickup but I tow it with my daily driver. It is an 02 extended cab Sierra Z71 with 80,000. It is a very nice truck and I love it to death but it just doesn't really have as much *** as I would like for it to. It has a stock 5.3 besides a K&N intake. I've been toying around the idea of possibly putting a procharger on to help get the torque up on this thing. Would a Whipple be better? I'm thinking I want a supercharger instead of turbo since I just want bottom end grunt and easier install. I figured I could put my money in this truck instead of putting it towards a new one. Any ideas and experiences of people doing this is welcomed.
A Procharger would be the last thing in the world you would want for towing. A Whipple or similar PD blower or a turbo setup would be the ticket. Just keep in mind that GM's suspension is not ideal for towing. It lends itself to trailer sway under heavy load.
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Just keep in mind that GM's suspension is not ideal for towing. It lends itself to trailer sway under heavy load.
Funny, I've towed 22" extra height/width enclosed trailer with my 96 Z71 1/2 ton and my 2009 1/2 ton 2wd with no problem at all...well other than lack of towing power. Never had a problem with sway at all and no anti-sway kit just stock suspension. That's with tool cabinet/upper cabinets/generator/air compressor/race car and spares.
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Funny, I've towed 22" extra height/width enclosed trailer with my 96 Z71 1/2 ton and my 2009 1/2 ton 2wd with no problem at all...well other than lack of towing power. Never had a problem with sway at all and no anti-sway kit just stock suspension. That's with tool cabinet/upper cabinets/generator/air compressor/race car and spares.
I'm referring to quite a bit more weight than that. Also, tall trailers lend themselves to stable towing due to the air drag against them. I prefer GM trucks overall, but for max effort towing, Dodge truck suspensions are more stable.
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I would still turbo it. I thought about doing the same thing with my LQ4 2500. Just build up a quick and cheap front mount kit that retains A/C. Then I was going to use a china 70mm. That bitch would light off like nobodies business. And as long as it made 450-500whp, that would be plenty enough. Considering they make 225whp factory.
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I would still turbo it. I thought about doing the same thing with my LQ4 2500. Just build up a quick and cheap front mount kit that retains A/C. Then I was going to use a china 70mm. That bitch would light off like nobodies business. And as long as it made 450-500whp, that would be plenty enough. Considering they make 225whp factory.
That is a good idea and I have thought about running the On3 kit that they make for this truck. I'm just not sure about LONG term durability with it. I wonder about the 4l60e as well. I just don't see how people buy new trucks these days.
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That is a good idea and I have thought about running the On3 kit that they make for this truck. I'm just not sure about LONG term durability with it. I wonder about the 4l60e as well. I just don't see how people buy new trucks these days.
If you buy good a good turbo reliability isn't an issue at all, Turbos have been used on diesel trucks for 300,000+ without any issues and are found on many new cars/trucks. I can't comment on the build quality of the turbo(s) that comes in the on3 kit. I wouldn't have much faith in the 4l60e it's going to be your weak link, I would at least buy a good cooler and monitor temps closely while towing. I would look at the cost of adding forced induction and getting it tuned versus finding a decent diesel truck to replace the truck you currently have, It's hard to beat the power and fuel economy.
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That is a good idea and I have thought about running the On3 kit that they make for this truck. I'm just not sure about LONG term durability with it. I wonder about the 4l60e as well. I just don't see how people buy new trucks these days.
Yeah, luckily my 2500 had the 4L80 in it, as well as the GM 14 bolt rear. It was just begging for boost. Now for the idea I had, I was just going to go with the cheap route, to see how long it would last. I mean, in reality, if the turbo failed, it would have been about a $350 loss. As that's how much the turbos are. But of course, you always have the opportunity to spend more money. A single Borg Warner S366 would do just as well, and then you would have your quality turbo right there.
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The 4l60 will quickly become a leaky paperweight in a boosted z71. No matter how strong you build them, you don't need much 4wd hooked boost to rip apart the tailshaft. I have seen this multiple times.
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