Trying to decide on cam and see what the pros think.
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On The Tree
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From: depew, ny
Trying to decide on cam and see what the pros think. I'm looking to hit ~750 ... it's a show/ rare occasional strip/ driver on nice days/ and I really want to pull my camper which weighs approx 5,000 lbs. Because there is no reason why I shouldn't be able to!
The vehicle is
03 s10 blazer 2dr. 2wd
03' lq4
03 silverado ecu+HP TUNERS
Stock crank
Molnar turbo rods
JE forged dished pistons ~8.8:1 comp.
Stock 317's with Manley valves
Ls6 intake with 80lb. Deka's
Intercooled Single turbo ON3 88mm
single 4" exhaust dynomax ultraflow
4l80e with transgo hd2
circle d 3200 stall
Ford 8.8 rear with 3.73's
~27.5 tall tire
but I really want to run the BTR stage 3 turbo cam. For its power ability and because I love the way it sounds (shows, and cruise nights)
my question is, do u guys think it will be a shitty driver with this cam over the BTR STAGE 2 turbo cam?
The vehicle is
03 s10 blazer 2dr. 2wd
03' lq4
03 silverado ecu+HP TUNERS
Stock crank
Molnar turbo rods
JE forged dished pistons ~8.8:1 comp.
Stock 317's with Manley valves
Ls6 intake with 80lb. Deka's
Intercooled Single turbo ON3 88mm
single 4" exhaust dynomax ultraflow
4l80e with transgo hd2
circle d 3200 stall
Ford 8.8 rear with 3.73's
~27.5 tall tire
but I really want to run the BTR stage 3 turbo cam. For its power ability and because I love the way it sounds (shows, and cruise nights)
my question is, do u guys think it will be a shitty driver with this cam over the BTR STAGE 2 turbo cam?
The 3.73's help but it will be soft out of boost. I with you on the sound but in this combo I don't think it will be worth the trade off if you tow. Stay on the mild conservative side and you will be happier in the end.
Go with less duration and minimize overlap if you want to tow with it. I would do a nice aftermarket turbo truck cam.....somewhere between 212 and 220 duration and a few degrees of negative overlap at 0.050. You can hit 750 with that and be able to tow.
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On The Tree
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From: depew, ny
thanks for the feedback guys. i should have said what i was going to do exactly with the towing... when i take my trailer out i never drive more then ~60 miles and its about 80% all flat roads. i have ALOT of campgrounds around me and im more of a take it out for the weekend and bring it back home kinda guy. that being said we are talking like only 8 times a year if im lucky (shitty weather, wifes work schedule). Thats why i was trying to get away with the BTR stage 3 turbo cam because it would be so little im asking of the setup.
also that stall number was targeted to me by BTR.
im more focused on just regular driving around town and country roads. i think it would be fine but really wanted some input from the turbo geniuses
also that stall number was targeted to me by BTR.
im more focused on just regular driving around town and country roads. i think it would be fine but really wanted some input from the turbo geniuses
thanks for the feedback guys. i should have said what i was going to do exactly with the towing... when i take my trailer out i never drive more then ~60 miles and its about 80% all flat roads. i have ALOT of campgrounds around me and im more of a take it out for the weekend and bring it back home kinda guy. that being said we are talking like only 8 times a year if im lucky (shitty weather, wifes work schedule). Thats why i was trying to get away with the BTR stage 3 turbo cam because it would be so little im asking of the setup.
also that stall number was targeted to me by BTR.
im more focused on just regular driving around town and country roads. i think it would be fine but really wanted some input from the turbo geniuses
also that stall number was targeted to me by BTR.
im more focused on just regular driving around town and country roads. i think it would be fine but really wanted some input from the turbo geniuses
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On The Tree
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From: depew, ny
well if it can yank it around without causing too much heat and or damage then i would say that its going to have more then enough power... i know it may not be ideal, but if it wont kill me then why not!
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the perfect cam for that combo wont sound like you want it to sound. and running the stage 3 cam is a compromise to what whould really be best all around performance. if it were my truck id run a isky triple 12 cam . a good solid turbo cam but it has a pretty lame idle to it. hell the cam in my nova is a 206/212 duration and runs 9,90s at 13.5 psi boost at 3500 lbs.
no disrespect to the stage 3 cam if dyno numbers or max effort performance is what you want it is great . but what you need is best average power. jmho.
no disrespect to the stage 3 cam if dyno numbers or max effort performance is what you want it is great . but what you need is best average power. jmho.
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Not sure what the order of your priorities are.
Relatively low compression and long duration cam work against each other.
A good compromise might be a shorter intake duration to maintain acceptable dynamic compression in the lower rpm range. Use valve overlap to give you the rowdy idle. Yes, excessive overlap has it's downsides. However, given what you want, I think this is the way you should go about it.
I don't think an off the shelf cam is going to be available. Would be best to have one custom spec'd and made just for your application.
Relatively low compression and long duration cam work against each other.
A good compromise might be a shorter intake duration to maintain acceptable dynamic compression in the lower rpm range. Use valve overlap to give you the rowdy idle. Yes, excessive overlap has it's downsides. However, given what you want, I think this is the way you should go about it.
I don't think an off the shelf cam is going to be available. Would be best to have one custom spec'd and made just for your application.
Staging Lane
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From: Northwest Arkansas
5000 lbs behind a 2dr S10 Blazer?! I'm scared just thinking of that!!
I say build it to match your "90% driving habits". If its too big for towing 700 miles a year, then who cares. As long as you drive it 7,000 Street/Cruise Night miles a year then the 700 towing miles a year wont matter. Or buy the wife a tow rig and runt eh BTR 3 in the Blazer. According to Edmunds you are at the very top of what a 4 door Blazer is rated at so.....
I say build it to match your "90% driving habits". If its too big for towing 700 miles a year, then who cares. As long as you drive it 7,000 Street/Cruise Night miles a year then the 700 towing miles a year wont matter. Or buy the wife a tow rig and runt eh BTR 3 in the Blazer. According to Edmunds you are at the very top of what a 4 door Blazer is rated at so.....
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On The Tree
Joined: Jan 2011
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From: depew, ny
5000 lbs behind a 2dr S10 Blazer?! I'm scared just thinking of that!!
I say build it to match your "90% driving habits". If its too big for towing 700 miles a year, then who cares. As long as you drive it 7,000 Street/Cruise Night miles a year then the 700 towing miles a year wont matter. Or buy the wife a tow rig and runt eh BTR 3 in the Blazer. According to Edmunds you are at the very top of what a 4 door Blazer is rated at so.....
I say build it to match your "90% driving habits". If its too big for towing 700 miles a year, then who cares. As long as you drive it 7,000 Street/Cruise Night miles a year then the 700 towing miles a year wont matter. Or buy the wife a tow rig and runt eh BTR 3 in the Blazer. According to Edmunds you are at the very top of what a 4 door Blazer is rated at so.....