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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 09:23 AM
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They were using MLS gaskets in this block. They were going to o-ring it but decided to get get rid of it.

The car was street raced and tracked raced at the time, I dk if that makes a difference.
Yes it makes a huge difference. have to keep the heads sealed, should have been an obvious clue if they're putting gaskets in it a lot.
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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 04:05 PM
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Lot of variables , I have boosted a couple , what crank do you have dragon slayer , ultra Billit , is a turbo extrem ERL 434 super deck , 1/2 head studs?
Or is a regular Callie's forged crank do u have six bolt heads ?
so where they procharged? How many lbs boost?
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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 07:15 PM
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No one blower and one was turbo , I never had a issue with a ERl Block , made 1380 rwhp on pump gas on 20 pounds thru a 4l80 six bolt heads ,it's a 434 cubes u are not gonna have a issue with to many pounds of boost unless u have two promod 88s
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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 07:19 PM
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My buddy Fran at Rpm been 8.20 with ERl 434 with f1x l never had one problem sold the car just like thatb
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Originally Posted by 1500HP
No one blower and one was turbo , I never had a issue with a ERl Block , made 1380 rwhp on pump gas on 20 pounds thru a 4l80 six bolt heads ,it's a 434 cubes u are not gonna have a issue with to many pounds of boost unless u have two promod 88s
Trying to decide if i should go 1/2" studs. Some say below 20lbs your fine with the 3/8. What do you guys think?

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Old Sep 8, 2017 | 10:41 PM
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1/2 inch are definitely better , but u should be fine 3/8 , I never pushed any water but I always had 6 bolt and arp 234-4314 head studs it will make all power the road can handle
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Old Sep 10, 2017 | 09:12 AM
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Perfect, i live within driving distance of texas speed and they do 1/2" studs. Just wish they did piston squirters
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 1500HP
No one blower and one was turbo , I never had a issue with a ERl Block , made 1380 rwhp on pump gas on 20 pounds thru a 4l80 six bolt heads ,it's a 434 cubes u are not gonna have a issue with to many pounds of boost unless u have two promod 88s
I know of a pair of cars that are/were using the superdeck and at 430" with twin garrett 88's and didn't have any/many problems with the blocks themselves.
Had a few other problems but that happens with big power cars from time to time.
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Originally Posted by maroonls1z
Trying to decide if i should go 1/2" studs. Some say below 20lbs your fine with the 3/8. What do you guys think?
The psi is relative and not an indicator of horsepower by itself. One car on 16psi might make as much as 24 on another. Define your actual power level and build it for that not the boost pressure it takes to reach your power goal.

You don't need fancy bolts for under 1200hp. The normal cheap ARP 234-4317 have held down stock heads at 35PSI and 1100+whp.
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by a05c
I know of a pair of cars that are/were using the superdeck and at 430" with twin garrett 88's and didn't have any/many problems with the blocks themselves.
Had a few other problems but that happens with big power cars from time to time.
No I agree 100% with you my point was unless it's realy max effort setup , he would not have to worry about it
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The hard thing that some people cant understand.. is that the bigger the engine, cubic inches wise, is it'll run out of turbo really quick. Running into the choke point of the turbo, parts of the compressor map that only make it more prone to detonation.

Personally, racing in a turbo limited class, a smaller engine with decent compression goes a long way. I wouldn't hesitate to hang a turbo or blower on a 12:1 engine (with a 6 bolt setup obviously).

it takes some well researched and good parts to make it fast, and more importantly live. That's what I don't understand about why a lot of these people building the "sloppy" stuff. Spend the money on good parts and make it live longer, instead of cheaping out and having to work on it ALL THE TIME. It gets old in a hurry, just my $0.02
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Originally Posted by a05c
The hard thing that some people cant understand.. is that the bigger the engine, cubic inches wise, is it'll run out of turbo really quick. Running into the choke point of the turbo, parts of the compressor map that only make it more prone to detonation.

Personally, racing in a turbo limited class, a smaller engine with decent compression goes a long way. I wouldn't hesitate to hang a turbo or blower on a 12:1 engine (with a 6 bolt setup obviously).

it takes some well researched and good parts to make it fast, and more importantly live. That's what I don't understand about why a lot of these people building the "sloppy" stuff. Spend the money on good parts and make it live longer, instead of cheaping out and having to work on it ALL THE TIME. It gets old in a hurry, just my $0.02
He said he's running a Procharger in this case. I wouldn't worry at all about the block with that blower.

But I agree with an engine that large I'd hang a set of 76/75 or s476's off of it and let it eat.
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
He said he's running a Procharger in this case. I wouldn't worry at all about the block with that blower.

But I agree with an engine that large I'd hang a set of 76/75 or s476's off of it and let it eat.
Well adding the procharger would be way easier than adding a turbo. This is a car id like to be abble to DD should i choose. A/c and all accessories are kept. So NOT race car and wil NEVER be caged. Just weekend toy mostly
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