Turbo up pipe sizing
If so, I'd have to think that this is a very critical place to "get it right". I'm a big procharger guy and can tell you first hand that power can suffer in a big way with small tubes and restrictive air cleaners. I can't imagine that the inlet of a turbo is any less demanding than the inlet of a centri blower.
Also, I'm having a hard time seeing where an unrestricted inlet side would adversely affect spool times.
Correct me if I'm wrong please.
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Inside this drops down to less than 1.5" diameter.
Obviously much larger turbos/housings would have a larger hole. But I'd guess your S300 SXE's arent much different.
So would it make any real sense to have a 3" tube feeding this ? Nevermind 3.5 ?
What power level are you shooting for?
2.5 is more than enough. I'd bet you could go to 2.25"
Here is an example of what 2.5" pipe is capable of...
Quillens 482 cube engine makes 2800+hp on 2.5" uppipes and turns 8200RPM. Thats a 2.5" collector and 2.5" pipe feeding twin 91mm turbos. IT's also on methanol.
And of course some will get bypassed via the wastegates.
Either way it's still a small hole.
I feel like some of you are talking about feeding the turbine side, then others are talking about the outlet side of the compressor.
What are we supposed to be discussing here again???
I feel like some of you are talking about feeding the turbine side, then others are talking about the outlet side of the compressor.
What are we supposed to be discussing here again???
I'm no turbo guy, so I could be off here. You can see how this gets confusing. I believe the OP wants to talk about the cold side, or compressor side, of the turbo. So using the term turbine just creates confusion.
....or am I stupid?
Yes that is the exhaust housing.
Downpipe would then be turbine housing to atmosphere, rear of car, wherever the final outlet may be.
Not sure why people are even thinking along the lines of intake air, especially given the sizes mentioned. ie 2.5", 3", 3.5", when most decent size turbos are 4" or above for the inlet, as per the SXE's he's using.
In theory you probably could step a 4" air inlet down smaller, especially if say the wheel was only a 64mm inducer wheel as that is around 2.5", but that would be a silly thing to do really when you want that side as free flowing as possible.
I did build a couple 2 1/4 setups with a merge to 2 1/4 single pipe before the turbo and it made 750 hp to the tires at 18 psi boost on a 6.0 so even that small it still doesn't seem to hinder top end power. I built them for truck use but the one went on a 6.0 in a Malibu and jfr 218 cam that made 750 hp.
from what ive seen the turbine housing still is the smallest point of the hot side or the bottleneck in the system.
here is a pic of the pipes I build they are all almost exactly the same in design
From exhaust manifold to each turbo 2.25 is fine
From turbo to exhaust match the size of the turbos exhaust
From fresh air into turbo match the piping to how large the inlet is
For how large the turbos compressed air through intercooler to throttle body
For a 102mm tb 2.75" is optimal
For a 90mm tb 2.5" is optimal
For a stock tb 2.24" is optimal
Those numbers are based on the piping for both inlets being the same size as the throttle body any larger the throttle body becomes a bottle neck. Any smaller and the piping is a bottle neck.









