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Old Sep 30, 2017 | 10:24 AM
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C'mon guys, can we at least have this forum as a refuge from government and politics? Personally, I'm sick to death of hearing about this stupid president, the football teams taking a stand.... and just politics in general. It's a complete waste of time.
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Old Sep 30, 2017 | 10:57 AM
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But an island is surrounded by water... big water... ocean water!

The difference in knock resistance/octane from e50 and e85 is minimal. If you are only wanting 800rwhp just do e85 from the pump and you will save the $ on not having to buy crazy priced larger injectors to be able to run e98. e98 is for big boy racing.... not what you are doing.
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Old Sep 30, 2017 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Game ova
C'mon guys, can we at least have this forum as a refuge from government and politics? Personally, I'm sick to death of hearing about this stupid president, the football teams taking a stand.... and just politics in general. It's a complete waste of time.
Yes there is a better place for this discussion but your attitude is what allows the politicians to continue the dumb *** subsidies going. You cannot make your case without bringing in the president and football? WTF. And how do you discuss the availability/pricing of E85 without discussing the forces behind it?

"ATHENS, Nov 22 (Reuters) - Former U.S. vice-president Al Gore said support for corn-based ethanol in the United States was “not a good policy”, weeks before tax credits are up for renewal."
https://www.reuters.com/article/etha...6AL0YT20101122
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Old Sep 30, 2017 | 11:02 AM
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Sorry gnx7. Your response was more appropriate. I should have stifled myself.
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Old Sep 30, 2017 | 11:26 AM
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Hi PHLUXX, as you see, LITTLE "tech" here at LS-1 TECH.

E-100 (Indy Car Fuel) is Pure Ethanol, "denatured" here in the states because we would drink this product. (US LAW = E-98)
E-98 is the Denatured Product sold, I have used the OFTEN with great success. (EJ-25 Turbo Car Fuel)
E-95 is Bus Fuel made when the E-100 is blended with HIGH Quality pump gas. (Unleaded)

My METHOD, BUY the E-98/mix with 5% race gas (108)

SELL this in your area (your E-95 brand) you will become wealthy.

The LEAD/Benzine in the RACE GAS helps lubricate the pistons/rings/valves/injectors.

Lance
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Old Sep 30, 2017 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by gsteele
Yes there is a better place for this discussion but your attitude is what allows the politicians to continue the dumb *** subsidies going. You cannot make your case without bringing in the president and football? WTF. And how do you discuss the availability/pricing of E85 without discussing the forces behind it?

"ATHENS, Nov 22 (Reuters) - Former U.S. vice-president Al Gore said support for corn-based ethanol in the United States was “not a good policy”, weeks before tax credits are up for renewal."
https://www.reuters.com/article/etha...6AL0YT20101122
I "make my case" however I see fit, not how you decide is necessary. Couldn't care less about "policies behind it", as it's a losing proposition.... and before long, won't matter anyway.
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Old Sep 30, 2017 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Game ova
C'mon guys, can we at least have this forum as a refuge from government and politics? Personally, I'm sick to death of hearing about this stupid president, the football teams taking a stand.... and just politics in general. It's a complete waste of time.

Game Ova i could not agree more I think its also a crock of **** and complete waste of time just my opinion.

and sorry Gsteele I know that makes me part of the problem :S
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Old Sep 30, 2017 | 09:46 PM
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So I can get E98 and E85 locally, you saying i should get the 85 or 70 winter blend instead because there's no benefit of running the 98 with it being harder on the fuel system and not boosting octane anymore than 70/85? Keep in mine it's the exact same price for 98 as it is70/85
Correct sir.

As was mentioned, you can create your own blend.
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Old Sep 30, 2017 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RonSSNova
Correct sir.

As was mentioned, you can create your own blend.


how is this blend created ? with avgas or any gas station premium?

ex.

so if i had 10 Gallons of E85 (8.5G of ethanol 1.5G of fuel) and wanted E50, id just add another 7 Gallons of fuel to make it and even 50/50 mix of 8.5G of ethanol to 8.5G of fuel ?


Thanks for all your help.
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Old Oct 1, 2017 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by gsteele
Not being sarcastic here, as I don't really know and don't use E85 but I thought the lower the alcohol the easier to start. You may have meant E50. BTW, how is the Impala running? I may have missed any updates this year.
Yes, less alcohol means easier cold start. His choices are E85 or E98 so that's why I was thinking E85. I notice a cold start difference when the temp gets close to or below 60F. Not a huge deal, maybe and extra revolution or two cranking. E98 might make a big difference there but I cannot say from experience.

Impala is running well. Had some electrical bugs but those have been sorted. I have 3500 miles on the combo and have enjoyed the car on the street since I stopped chasing a timeslip. Fuel system still clean after 2 years of E85 (local station tests a consistent E78-E80). Just getting into my favorite fall season to drive it. We are actually taking it on a 2 hour trip to a pumpkin farm/corn maze today.
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Old Oct 1, 2017 | 09:18 AM
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Home mix was a big thing here when leaded gas was yanked. Most common was to mix mothballs with gas to make 'race gas' or buy aviation fuel. There were a few dudes stilling out wood alc but it was slowwww and racing is about speed so it died out.

The only issues ive seen with alc based fuels is the goo that grows from corn based ethanol specifically or the washing from meth that happens. Lance seems to have tested this and sorted out some tech, im sure he knows what works and doesnt.

Pump E85 is super handy for those that have access and fellas if you want to talk politicy i too am not interested here although i will offer one comment re the E85 policies;


Considering fuel is required for many uses and domestic oil supply was low as limbo prior to fracking it would be prudent to have a domestic fuel source and enough mechanics to use it to power certain vehicles in the event of conflict. Energy independence is true freedom

Long live the corn
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Old Oct 1, 2017 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by alocker
Yes, less alcohol means easier cold start. His choices are E85 or E98 so that's why I was thinking E85. I notice a cold start difference when the temp gets close to or below 60F. Not a huge deal, maybe and extra revolution or two cranking. E98 might make a big difference there but I cannot say from experience.

Impala is running well. Had some electrical bugs but those have been sorted. I have 3500 miles on the combo and have enjoyed the car on the street since I stopped chasing a timeslip. Fuel system still clean after 2 years of E85 (local station tests a consistent E78-E80). Just getting into my favorite fall season to drive it. We are actually taking it on a 2 hour trip to a pumpkin farm/corn maze today.
Makes sense and thanks for the update. Love that car. I learned to drive in a 1965 Impala.
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Old Oct 1, 2017 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by cam
Home mix was a big thing here when leaded gas was yanked. Most common was to mix mothballs with gas to make 'race gas' or buy aviation fuel. There were a few dudes stilling out wood alc but it was slowwww and racing is about speed so it died out.

The only issues ive seen with alc based fuels is the goo that grows from corn based ethanol specifically or the washing from meth that happens. Lance seems to have tested this and sorted out some tech, im sure he knows what works and doesnt.

Pump E85 is super handy for those that have access and fellas if you want to talk politicy i too am not interested here although i will offer one comment re the E85 policies;


Considering fuel is required for many uses and domestic oil supply was low as limbo prior to fracking it would be prudent to have a domestic fuel source and enough mechanics to use it to power certain vehicles in the event of conflict. Energy independence is true freedom

Long live the corn


The Lance your referring to is that EFI Panthera?

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Old Oct 1, 2017 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by phluxx
The Lance your referring to is that EFI Panthera?

It would be
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