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Old Oct 10, 2017 | 09:12 AM
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So I have had my car a few months now and have done a few small upgrades to it
I have ran It at the track a few times and it runs like a typical stock car in the 13s
I am wanting more like we all do. I have tossed the idea around to build a 408 stroker and run nitrous on it.
but have also tossed the idea around of keeping the LS1 in it do some upgrades to it such as H/C/I and do a FI on it.


what im wondering about is whch FI type system to go with if I do go that route.


I will say im a little unsure of much of the turbo stuff as far as to get it all working properly and not really a lot of people around my area that do Turbo setups. so its hard to figure things out.
I really like the idea of going FI with either a single turbo setup or a Procharger setup.
the Procharger setup that I could buy from what I gather is a complete system where as most Turbo systems I have seen you have different options to go with such as type and size of Turbos, waste gates and so on and it really confuses me a lot.


what are some of your alls opinions on Turbo vs. procharger set ups
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Old Oct 10, 2017 | 09:41 AM
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Just depends on how fast you want to go at the track.... a well build 408ci on nitrous can go 9s with ease on pump gas.
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Old Oct 10, 2017 | 06:37 PM
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Honestly go with the LS1 and the procharger. Its cheaper to build the LS1 than the 408. Forced induction is rad because its always on tap compared to filling bottles, heating them, purging, ect... Nitrous sucks when you all of the sudden want to get on it but its not ready. A procharger kit from Bob at Brutespeed requires a LOT less fab work than a turbo kit. No moving the radiator, tapping for coolant and oil, having to worry about controlling boost, or anything like that its a much simpler install and tuning path. Now some that are very experienced with turbo kits will say oh all of that stuff is easy, but if you don't know about it, its a lot more to learn. Especially if you don't have a lot of help around you. Yes turbos have the potential for more power, but it doesn't seem like from the way you stated it you are looking to make a million horse power. A built LS1 and Procharger is going to be a simple, cost effective, and reliable way to have a 500-750hp car that you enjoy without many headaches.
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Old Oct 10, 2017 | 08:22 PM
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Honestly go with the LS1 and the procharger. Its cheaper to build the LS1 than the 408. Forced induction is rad because its always on tap compared to filling bottles, heating them, purging, ect... Nitrous sucks when you all of the sudden want to get on it but its not ready. A procharger kit from Bob at Brutespeed requires a LOT less fab work than a turbo kit. No moving the radiator, tapping for coolant and oil, having to worry about controlling boost, or anything like that its a much simpler install and tuning path. Now some that are very experienced with turbo kits will say oh all of that stuff is easy, but if you don't know about it, its a lot more to learn. Especially if you don't have a lot of help around you. Yes turbos have the potential for more power, but it doesn't seem like from the way you stated it you are looking to make a million horse power. A built LS1 and Procharger is going to be a simple, cost effective, and reliable way to have a 500-750hp car that you enjoy without many headaches.

if I could get 500-750 hp out of my LS1 and a Procharger I would be happy with that.
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Old Oct 10, 2017 | 08:32 PM
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Just remember the difference between 500hp and 750hp is quite a bit. As always the harder you push it the closer you push things to the edge and the more likely to break they are. Since you will have a built LS1 I wouldn't worry too much about that, I'd be more worried about trans and rear end. I'd need more info to tell you what should be done with those.
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I used to be the first one saying how well a properly setup heads and cam car could run. After feeling 7 pounds in my car, I have a hard time recommending all motor setups anymore. They dont make sense for dollar per hp. If you havent seen my build, check it out. Page 5 starts weight reduction, page 18 starts the turbo transformation. Lots of pics.

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Old Oct 11, 2017 | 09:11 AM
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Procharger = $$$$

For 3 or 4 grand I'd be in, kinda hard to swallow what the actual cost is though. As cool as they are they are also ridiculously expensive.
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Old Oct 11, 2017 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
I used to be the first one saying how well a properly setup heads and cam car could run. After feeling 7 pounds in my car, I have a hard time recommending all motor setups anymore. They dont make sense for dollar per hp. If you havent seen my build, check it out. Page 5 starts weight reduction, page 18 starts the turbo transformation. Lots of pics.

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Agreed. I’ve got a buddy that’s putting together a turbo LS2 in a ‘65 Chevelle. He’s down to the nickel and dime stuff that seems to take as long as the entire build. He’s made the comment that his next Engine will be n/a. I told him “that’ll change after you drive it.” Since putting the turbo on my Nova, I’ll probably never do an n/a application again. FI FTW!
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NA is a joke compared to boost. Not even close, and if it is you have a house mortgage in your NA setup!
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Go turbo, no worries about stupid belts.

The supporting mod is what kills you, fuel system, trans, and rear.
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Belts? BELTS?!?!? That's the reason you say go turbo? Lol for sale of simplicity I'll take a system that regulates its own boost making overboost not possible. A system that is completely self contained. One that makes linear power without a major torque spike if all I have to worry about is shredding a belt every couple of months that costs very little and 10 minutes to swap.

I've owned both. I'm turbo now because I wanted max power and am ready to handle the complications that come with it. For someone who is on the fence procharger is always the better option. If you have to ask you aren't ready for all of the extras that come with a turbo
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Dont act like belt slip aint an issue.....cause it is.
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