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Old Feb 27, 2018 | 01:15 PM
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I just recently finished the build on my 99 Camaro. Its a SBE Ls1 with a vs 7875 and a truck manifold hotside. I am having an issue with a random misfire that i can't figure out. We think it is cylinder 1, but it isnt showing up with a DTC. The only reason we think its that cylinder is the primary was 100* colder than all the others. (190-210 as opposed to 300-320) So far i have checked the following:
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injectors
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fresh gas and filter
New o2 sensors

I am stumped with this one. Does anybody have any ideas on where to look next? or have had the same issue?
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Old Feb 27, 2018 | 02:20 PM
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Check compression and tone the coil trigger wires from the pcm
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Old Feb 28, 2018 | 08:41 AM
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When does it misfire? Cruise idle under boost?
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When does it misfire? Cruise idle under boost?
all of the above. It’s more noticeable in higher rpms but it does it at low speed and idle too.
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Old Feb 28, 2018 | 02:23 PM
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Did you check plugs or straight up replace them? I had a miss turn out to be a damn near invisible crack in the porcelain that I only spotted by chance.
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Old Feb 28, 2018 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by truckdoug
Did you check plugs or straight up replace them? I had a miss turn out to be a damn near invisible crack in the porcelain that I only spotted by chance.
Checked them the first time then replaced them. Also did a compression test. Got 6 out of 8 done before I ran out of time tonight. Results are as follows:
1-148
3-180
5- tbd
7-tbd
2-152
4-150
6-150
8-148
like i said ill get to 5 and 7 tomorrow or Friday when I get time. If they all check out I’ll be looking at coil harness and pushrods next.
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 08:24 AM
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All right here’s an update:

i finished the compression test test and everything checked out. I smoked the vac system and found no leaks. I did a leak down test and each cylinder was 10-15%. I pulled the pcm connectors off and found some corrosion on the terminal that houses a pcm ground. I thought “aha, this is it”. Cleaned off real well with contact cleaner and put it back together. As of today the problem still persists.
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Are all of your ground straps in place? A bad ground will do crazy random stuff
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Originally Posted by squarles67
Are all of your ground straps in place? A bad ground will do crazy random stuff
Yessir. Checked both ground straps along with the grounds on the back of the heads.
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 10:39 AM
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What grounds did you run?

back of head to battery negative
chassis to engine
engine harness to body
engine harness to back of head
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Suncc49
What grounds did you run?

back of head to battery negative
chassis to engine
engine harness to body
engine harness to back of head
It had the 3 factory grounds on the back of the head that I checked. Then the main one from the neg terminal to the block, then the 2 straps from the block to the frame
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 10:26 PM
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Swap the plug wire to the number 3 cylinder and see if the cooler temps follow. If not, move the coil.

To me, a cooler exhaust temp means poor ignition (atleast that would be where I start).
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Old Mar 13, 2018 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by RealQuick
Swap the plug wire to the number 3 cylinder and see if the cooler temps follow. If not, move the coil.

To me, a cooler exhaust temp means poor ignition (atleast that would be where I start).


And if that does not work swap the injector
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Originally Posted by coltboostin
And if that does not work swap the injector
Good point. If an injector is stuck open, I would think that could cause the cooler cylinder temps too.
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Check your rocker arms make sure they are all tight. I had a similar problem once no code and felt like a miss but still run ok.
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Rockers have been checked and retorqued. The plug, wire and coil have all been swapped on that side. I’ll try swapping the injector and see if it follows.
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Old Mar 14, 2018 | 09:05 PM
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I think we have found the problem guys. Either the shop that flow tested the injectors didn’t know what they were doing or it developed the problem after the fact. One of the injectors is completely dead at idle and part throttle. However, if you give it WOT it operates just fine. So new injectors are on the way and we will see what happens. No TX2K for me this year, but oh well.
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Old Mar 14, 2018 | 09:19 PM
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Nice find!
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