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Old Aug 28, 2018 | 01:09 PM
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Started setting up an Eboost 2 to work so I can push my limits soon and not rely on the spring or a MBC. With the Eboost2 off, I get 8-9 PSI. Once I put in the generic settings, I can get a 2 PSI gain to 10-11 PSI total boost. My problem seems to be though my if I hold WOT and row through the gears, the boost spikes to 15ish PSI and then settles down to 10 PSI at the high end of the RPM range.

What I have a is the Eboost2 set up as follows:

I have the boost solenoid connected to boost pressure right off the turbo housing which T's into the lower port.



Any thoughts? 44MM Tial MVR gate, in the right place, PTE 7675. I do not get boost creep on WG spring.
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Old Aug 28, 2018 | 01:30 PM
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What does the curve look like at higher rpm? What size spring?

I have a T7575 on a 5.3l, turbosmart 50mm gate and had the same issue with a 7lb spring. Hooked up the rpm signal on the EB2 and used the boost correction function and that fixed it. Running a 10lb spring now tho and don't have that issue with no correction.
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Old Aug 28, 2018 | 01:36 PM
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here is another look at the log file. shows the spike and then it settling down.

I was looking at that correction factor....might give it a whirl

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Old Aug 29, 2018 | 05:55 PM
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Depending on which features and settings you are using and how you have them configured on the EBoost....who knows. You give no info.

But probably something like Gate Pressure set too high or sensitivity.
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Old Aug 29, 2018 | 06:55 PM
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fixed. Had the solenoid about 3-4 feet away. the length of hose (rubber) was causing some delay in response by pressurizing all that hose plus it has a fair amount of give.

Made the hoses 2 feet, problem solved. Simple physics and plumbing. made a few solid road pulls, hitting proper boost levels and holding like a rock. Eboost 2 kicks ***!
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Old Aug 30, 2018 | 05:08 AM
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Always keep hose runs as short as possible, any solenoids as close to the gates as possible etc.
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Old Aug 30, 2018 | 08:16 AM
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Don't use the sensitivity feature in the eboost2, at least I never did when I ran it. The gate pressure should be about 10psi away from your target, and that will help minimize spikes when the boost comes in.

Its a great controller, just have to take a sometime to learn how to use.
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My pulse/boost leash literally tells you to have like 4-6’ between the map and boost reference, and more doesn’t hurt. Guess it depends on the controller setup
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Old Aug 30, 2018 | 01:20 PM
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My pulse/boost leash literally tells you to have like 4-6’ between the map and boost reference, and more doesn’t hurt. Guess it depends on the controller setup
4-6 feet ? That's dumb. They must be trying to dampen or filter something by that crude method.

Although that has nothing whatsoever to do with the line for the wastegates/solenoids.
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4-6 feet ? That's dumb. They must be trying to dampen or filter something by that crude method.

Although that has nothing whatsoever to do with the line for the wastegates/solenoids.

Same goes for the noids. I’d hardly call it crude, clearly it works and works very very well if it’s one of the best controllers money can buy.
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Old Aug 30, 2018 | 01:39 PM
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You're referring to a completely different thing, that's clearly talking about high pressure systems and the pressure sensor on the wastegate.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
You're referring to a completely different thing, that's clearly talking about high pressure systems and the pressure sensor on the wastegate.
3rd paragraph down its talking about wastegate to selononoid relationship.
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Old Aug 30, 2018 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Cwarta


3rd paragraph down its talking about wastegate to selononoid relationship.
On a high pressure system.

And your first post was relating to a map sensor...nothing to do with the wastegate or solenoids.
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I remember reading an article somewhere that the vacuum/reference lines didnt have an effect on performance until you got above like 20-25ft.
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System works the same way with boost pressure as the pressure source. You don’t change the gate to noids distance based on what your using for control pressure. Same stands for the map sensor, not sure why you’re hanging on that.
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
I remember reading an article somewhere that the vacuum/reference lines didnt have an effect on performance until you got above like 20-25ft.
Would depend on size and type of the line....but in the case of lines for boost control and wastegate/solenoid...yes it does make a difference as the OP has already proved.
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
I remember reading an article somewhere that the vacuum/reference lines didnt have an effect on performance until you got above like 20-25ft.

ive seen that as well and tested it on my own car with 1’ of Line and 15’ of line, no difference.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Would depend on size and type of the line....but in the case of lines for boost control and wastegate/solenoid...yes it does make a difference as the OP has already proved.
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ive seen that as well and tested it on my own car with 1’ of Line and 15’ of line, no difference.
Annnnndd....GO! I wasn't arguing 1 way or the other, just found the read interesting. I thought it was from Turbosmart or someone like that.
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I’m certainly not wanting to to argue, I’m just stating what I’ve seen personally.
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im pretty sure most models of very low pressure pneumatic systems (like air brakes on trucks or the doors on a subway car, for example) pretend air is non compressible, for the fact that with the small volumes and flow of the system the compression is negligible.

get up past a couple hundred psi and yeah air is springy
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