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Old Jan 25, 2019 | 04:40 AM
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Im planning to buy an LM7 based 347 short block and put Trickflow/Tooley fast as cast heads on it with 64cc chambers. I will use arp studs and gm mls gaskets. I have the choice of shelf pistons in -3.2cc or -11 cc. I’m thinking the -3.2cc and depending on deck clearance would put me around 10.7 to 1 static. Fuel is e85 and cam will be either the jam cam or a custom cammotion grind. Boost level will be around 15 psi to start, but I want around 800 rwhp eventually so what ever boost it takes to get there.

Lets avoid telling me how you make more with $300 junk yard builds all day long and stick to the topic of compression ratio on this build. Boost will be from my current D1x procharger.

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Old Jan 25, 2019 | 06:44 AM
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You never actually asked a question.
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Old Jan 25, 2019 | 06:53 AM
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You never actually asked a question.
Sorry it was early...with the choice of -3.2cc or -11cc pistons and the other information about the combo which would you choose? Off the top of my head I think the difference was either 10.7ish to 1 or 9.8ish to one depending on the unknown deck clearance.
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Old Jan 25, 2019 | 07:07 AM
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The aluminum 5.3 I'm swapping into my corvette at some point is ~11:1. I've ran 13:1 with boost and E85 on a 4 cylinder.
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
The aluminum 5.3 I'm swapping into my corvette at some point is ~11:1. I've ran 13:1 with boost and E85 on a 4 cylinder.
Ok that makes me feel better about the 10.7 to 1. My car is primarily a street toy with trips to the track. So with the small cubic inch centrifugal setup in a heavy street car the higher compression should help I was just afraid it would be too much.

As always appreciate your input.
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Old Jan 26, 2019 | 09:22 AM
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We have a 377” running 26+ psi on pump E85. Its at 11:1 CR.

Good tuning and run it Hard!

Best of success with your build.
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I’m 10:1 with Jam Cam. Love my street toy. Many centri set ups here with 10.7 that have had great results. Jam Cam @ 6* overlap & E85, I would think you have a great set up. It’s all in the the tune.
Take a look at Detoxx, I’m pretty sure he runs a ProCharger with substantial boost @10.7.
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Old Jan 28, 2019 | 03:30 PM
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We have a lot of customers in the 10.5:1 neighborhood on E85. Also, if I may, have a look at our CS 232/248 LS Supercharger Camshaft. It is a terrific performer in an aggressive setup:
http://www.cammotion.com/camshafts/c...r-centrifugal/
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Originally Posted by NitrOmm
I’m 10:1 with Jam Cam. Love my street toy. Many centri set ups here with 10.7 that have had great results. Jam Cam @ 6* overlap & E85, I would think you have a great set up. It’s all in the the tune.
Take a look at Detoxx, I’m pretty sure he runs a ProCharger with substantial boost @10.7.
Yep 21psi, SBE LS3, 10.7:1 CR
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I would absolutely go with the higher compression with a centrifugal and e85. The boost curve of a centrifugal lends itself to working well with higher compression compared to small turbos or positive displacement blowers.
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Yep 21psi, SBE LS3, 10.7:1 CR
How much timing are you able to run?
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Originally Posted by BCNUL8R


How much timing are you able to run?
Mine is at 15 or 16. If I had forged internals I’d bump it closer to the 20’s if it likes it. Im
gonna bump the CR into the 11’s also when I do it.
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