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Old 07-14-2019, 12:17 PM
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So we need to talk about the real issue here. Your pipe dream of making 1200hp for cheap isn't really the issue but the fact it's going into a CTs-v. That car can't handle power anywhere near that and it takes a lot to get it there and I doubt your willing to go that far.
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Originally Posted by MY_2K_Z
So we need to talk about the real issue here. Your pipe dream of making 1200hp for cheap isn't really the issue but the fact it's going into a CTs-v. That car can't handle power anywhere near that and it takes a lot to get it there and I doubt your willing to go that far.
Not to mention it's heavy as hell.

Appreciate your last comments OP, We will help ya!

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I do know about these issues with ctsv’s and I plan to deal with them as I reach them as well as the transmission, I have no deadline to meet this is purely for my satisfaction, I plan to build the bottom end to be capable of handling around 1200 and daily running it at around 700, I don’t even plan on turning it that high realistically im just looking the the cheapest way to build a bulletproof 5.3 capable of running 4 digits, from what I’ve seen I would be much more comfortable putting forged internals in but that’s also why I came here in the first place to get ideas sorry if I seem slightly closed minded I’m just sick of people telling me my builds not worth it just buy a 6.0 lol. Also btw I spent 300 on the block and stock 862 heads and I already purchased a .600/.600 cam from Texas speed
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
So you are still vague....you don't want to spend $800 on a block, you first want 800-1000...and now 1200+, which is what ? 1201 ? 2000 ?

You're all over the place.
Sounds like you doesn't he! Pot meet kettle Sorry couldn't resist.
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Originally Posted by Ben Pagano
I do know about these issues with ctsv’s and I plan to deal with them as I reach them as well as the transmission, I have no deadline to meet this is purely for my satisfaction, I plan to build the bottom end to be capable of handling around 1200 and daily running it at around 700, I don’t even plan on turning it that high realistically im just looking the the cheapest way to build a bulletproof 5.3 capable of running 4 digits, from what I’ve seen I would be much more comfortable putting forged internals in but that’s also why I came here in the first place to get ideas sorry if I seem slightly closed minded I’m just sick of people telling me my builds not worth it just buy a 6.0 lol. Also btw I spent 300 on the block and stock 862 heads and I already purchased a .600/.600 cam from Texas speed
Have you considered talking to Vengence, LPE, Thompson, Futral, any one of dozens of qualified build houses and discuss your goals and budget and get their input? I wouldn't use stock pistons for 1200 either, 700 sure, but at that point you might want to talk to a vendor and get their feedback.
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Sounds like you doesn't he! Pot meet kettle Sorry couldn't resist.

Not even on the same planet !
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Not even on the same planet !
If you knew his old username, you might agree
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
If you knew his old username, you might agree
Well that **** talon has already said it's him !!
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Well that **** talon has already said it's him !!
It's not him I can assure you of that.
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Everyone that wants *800 wheel* on a 5.3 and thinks they need forged interternals tells me 2 things .

1.

They have no idea how fast a 800 horse car is .

2.
Their tuner sucks .
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Originally Posted by Mavn
Everyone that wants *800 wheel* on a 5.3 and thinks they need forged interternals tells me 2 things .

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They have no idea how fast a 800 horse car is .

2.
Their tuner sucks .
on a gen3?
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how come when I say **** it sounds contrived, but when an irishman says **** it's ******* perfect?
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Originally Posted by Mavn
Everyone that wants *800 wheel* on a 5.3 and thinks they need forged interternals tells me 2 things .

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They have no idea how fast a 800 horse car is .

2.
Their tuner sucks .
lolzzzz so true. Forged internals can't save a shitty tune. I've seen so many blown up CTS-V's recently its not even funny... look at the tune and they are riding the knock sensors commanding 24* and 12.5:1 A/F trying to eek 5 more hp out of the little LSA blower or better yet fuel trims, knock sensors, and lean codes all turned off all while charging people $600-1000 for a tune, baffling really! The Facebook tuners are rampant with this and people don't seem to know any better.
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how the **** are those tuners making any money? Me and Ron are always baffled by that.

I took a big knock on facefuck & insta when I couldn't make some dude's 408 hit 600 wheel NA

never mind it was all mismatched stuff wrenched together by someone else, and homie insisted on e85 when the motor clearly couldnt make the cylinder pressure for it

sigh, guess I'll just keep building bumpers
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
lolzzzz so true. Forged internals can't save a shitty tune. I've seen so many blown up CTS-V's recently its not even funny... look at the tune and they are riding the knock sensors commanding 24* and 12.5:1 A/F trying to eek 5 more hp out of the little LSA blower or better yet fuel trims, knock sensors, and lean codes all turned off all while charging people $600-1000 for a tune, baffling really! The Facebook tuners are rampant with this and people don't seem to know any better.
when approached by this kind of job, a reputable tuner will talk the individual OUT of doing it, will refuse to do it.

Yesterday a random approached to install an TB 'self-learning' EFI system in a carb'd 383 cutlass or some kind of older 70's similar looking. I looked the car over considering carefully where the return and pump would mount vibration resistant etc... existing wiring replaced and so forth. Finally I get to the carb asking how it runs now and he tells me its been worked over by a 'reputable/legendary local' and proceed to start the engine and I took an involuntary step backwards from the unexpectedly aggressive tone, it sounded and ran perfect and I had forgotten what a proper sbc sounded like. I told him straight up keep the air filter and oil clean, I'll help him clean it up a little, and the best thing he can do is leave the carb.
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Originally Posted by truckdoug
how the **** are those tuners making any money? Me and Ron are always baffled by that.

I took a big knock on facefuck & insta when I couldn't make some dude's 408 hit 600 wheel NA

never mind it was all mismatched stuff wrenched together by someone else, and homie insisted on e85 when the motor clearly couldnt make the cylinder pressure for it

sigh, guess I'll just keep building bumpers
Honestly, I dont know and some seem to have a waiting list. The even more baffling part is when the tuner pops the engine and the person goes right back to them. Or in the instance of one tuner blew up like 5 engines in one day, I’m like jesus dude!

I can’t stand FB, place is full of idiots that have zero reason to be giving out advice and haven't built or tuned anything themselves. But for some reason people feel the need to listen to people with zero experience.

I could care less about the dyno numbers as we regularly outperform some shops advertised 1000+ hp builds with less so obviously not a good comparison.

I agree just keep your head down doing honest work. Even if someone disagrees with what you’re doing its the right thing so they can go somewhere else if they are hellbent on blowing something up.
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Originally Posted by Mavn
Everyone that wants *800 wheel* on a 5.3 and thinks they need forged interternals tells me 2 things .

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They have no idea how fast a 800 horse car is .

2.
Their tuner sucks .
Well you're not wrong.....
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Originally Posted by panda240ss
on a gen3?
We have multiple gen 3 motors over 900 wheel in 4600lb trucks running 9s
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Originally Posted by Mavn
We have multiple gen 3 motors over 900 wheel in 4600lb trucks running 9s
You should open a shop. You would put the big guys out of business.
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