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Uh.....think you missed my point completely.
That very engine, trans, etc, could have been put into a much lighter vehicle, still be completely streetable, and be way faster then the school bus he put it in.
He obviously has a lot of resources, so if he wants to spend a ton of it on such a project, well then, to each his own.
But for the money spent, he could have been a lot faster.
Or, saved a ton o-money, and have a 12 second luxory suv, which is still way faster then most out there.
No I don't think I missed the point and I do see your point as well, I think the variable here is "streetable" which has been debated forever.
I've got a 1000 hp car in the garage that is "streetable" but not streetable like the rolling sofa that is my newer pickup truck lol.
For the record I don't think anyone's opinion on this wrong because well, its their opinion.
I've got a 16' Silverado that's fully loaded which I love and if it had 1,000+ hp I'd love it even more.
Luxurious comfort, speed and utility is tough to beat when you get older.
It's like trying to figure out why two different people like two different paintings and each have a preference. Or why some music sounds better to others.
You gotta keep these sorts of things in the box they exist in. It's not meant to be a 7 sec ride, it's a 10ish second Yukon Denali. It's about what a Yukon can be, not about what a caged notchback or camaro can do with the same drivetrain. The original vision was a Yukon.
I made an 11sec pickup truck and you could fit me into the same box as OP....and I'm in the process of making another one and I still have the first one lol. Gotta do you.
It's like trying to figure out why two different people like two different paintings and each have a preference. Or why some music sounds better to others.
You gotta keep these sorts of things in the box they exist in. It's not meant to be a 7 sec ride, it's a 10ish second Yukon Denali. It's about what a Yukon can be, not about what a caged notchback or camaro can do with the same drivetrain. The original vision was a Yukon.
I made an 11sec pickup truck and you could fit me into the same box as OP....and I'm in the process of making another one and I still have the first one lol. Gotta do you.
Right?!
Personally I'd love to have a 1000+whp fully loaded Yukon Denali but I don't have the funds and the beautiful thing about this forum is I can watch someone else build it.
For the record, I'd love to see this tuna boat rip off a 9 sec 1/4 mile pass at some point.
How dare the OP builds HIS vehicle the way HE wants it.
Why? Cause he ******* wanted to and it's his money.
/rant
Relax killer, take a breath.
If dude wants to build the quickest suv out there, it's all good.
I am sure somewher out there is a guy smoking something green right now, looking at his D8 dozer, and thinking, "what if"?
ya'll are giving me way too much credit, this really wasnt a well thought out build or anything.
it just started out as a cam bolt ons daily driver, started hanging out with some old friends that hit the track all the time. ran it a few times for the fun of it, im not even really all that competitive.
after a year or two i was just the local 6k lb race suv guy. small things here and there, trackhawks came out..way too cheap to buy one, but throwing money into this was fun so i kept upping it.
at this point i'm just in it to see its full potential i guess. i'd love to drop another $10k into it for a dominator/new fuel system/wheels/drag radials.... it just happens when it happens there really isnt a budget or goal for it
should have had enough to run a 9 with the setup the way it was, need a couple more days at track. front limiting straps and different tire would go a long way. kind of hoping the next time out i will see a 9
ya'll are giving me way too much credit, this really wasnt a well thought out build or anything.
it just started out as a cam bolt ons daily driver, started hanging out with some old friends that hit the track all the time. ran it a few times for the fun of it, im not even really all that competitive.
after a year or two i was just the local 6k lb race suv guy. small things here and there, trackhawks came out..way too cheap to buy one, but throwing money into this was fun so i kept upping it.
at this point i'm just in it to see its full potential i guess. i'd love to drop another $10k into it for a dominator/new fuel system/wheels/drag radials.... it just happens when it happens there really isnt a budget or goal for it
should have had enough to run a 9 with the setup the way it was, need a couple more days at track. front limiting straps and different tire would go a long way. kind of hoping the next time out i will see a 9
Ya that's what I mean though. You just had a Yukon and wanted a faster Yukon. I just wanted to do a simple LS swap so I knew how to do them, and it just never stopped. Swap turns to turbo swap, turns to camshaft change and turbo turns to built transmission and rear end with intercoolers and meth sprays and electronic boost control and....***** like crack.
I hear what @dannyz is saying, and I am in the camp that AWD in a turbo street vehicle is a benefit. Do you not agree? If @randeez Yukon was track only maybe he would skip the AWD and build another vehicle, but if its dual use I have to think the AWD is a big pro. I am planning a street vehicle with a AWD chassis swap. I think it will be best of both worlds. Maybe I will be wrong. Maybe I will be right.
I hear what @dannyz is saying, and I am in the camp that AWD in a turbo street vehicle is a benefit. Do you not agree? If @randeez Yukon was track only maybe he would skip the AWD and build another vehicle, but if its dual use I have to think the AWD is a big pro. I am planning a street vehicle with a AWD chassis swap. I think it will be best of both worlds. Maybe I will be wrong. Maybe I will be right.
correct, if this was dedicated strip truck (knowing what i know now) i would never try and make a gm awd case work. big tire rwd would hook just as good with half the suspension work. on the street in all conditions, any weather, any road ... its still on a nitto 420s tire
also got the chiller in and recharged, guess i didnt take any pictures of it completed but this is for the most part, suction line runs across chiller - welded a barb onto the suction hose right before the ac compressor.
it still sucks in the worst, hottest air right off the radiator- cruising without the chiller just circulating water was showing about 120* intake temps in 70*ambient. chiller on intake temps get down and stay around 60* without much effort. if you leave it on long enough without doing some pulls it will get down to low 50s/high 40s.
well boys i think this turbo is about tapped out, along with my fuel system but ive been playing with it to run it on the edge last week or two, may go straight ms109/c16 or something but i dont think itll do much more.
won't trap anymore than 136mph @ ~6000lbs, boost falls off the last couple hundred rpm. im sure the hotside could be made a little more efficient, but prob not worth rebuilding the hotside around this turbo.
If that’s on E and you switch it up for ms109 you’ll gain some headroom with the injectors. I know you have to tune very differently for that fuel.
i like to drive it around (when it works) but gets like single digit mpg lol... $200+ a tank adds up pretty quick is the problem, that why ive tried to keep it on e85
guess i could lower the boost back down to 18/19ish and blast a bunch more timing at it and see what it do. running pretty soft on timing
@randeez What led you to Rossler trans? I am looking at 4L80s for similar build and wondering who owns the game with AWD.
I was more than willing to take a chance on a local company/guy but after calling a few, half of them thought putting in a hd2 shift kit would hold any amount of power. so i started looking around online, ended up with a shortlist of companies that were interested, telling them i wanted a badass 4l80 then i need it with the 4x4 output shaft got some awkward silences on the other end of the phone lol.
i contacted jakes, left a message but he didnt get back to me for a week or two. had already made the move with rossler - jake did get back to me though, chatted on the phone a bit went over the build and what rossler recommended.
I'm happy with them, had to send it back to them to get cleaned up after i had a converter come apart and trash the thing...the shipping (for me) does suck but its reasonable, the cost to clean it up was way less than i expected. initial cost for what i had built was up there but if it only needs a refresh every other year - for that price is nothing tbh. great service.
on that note, I had never heard of ATF Speed but i may have gone with them if they were on my radar at the time - mostly just because they are a lot more local to me.
been a few weeks..... i've tried to play around with boost, timing, fuel, E% cant get much more out of it anywhere.
it kind of needs everything to make any good progress, which sucks.
out of fuel(injector and pump)
out of turbo(crossover hotside needs to go also)
stock E38/t42 doesnt see over 255kpa, would need to be scaled even further to used larger injectors, trans tune is so-so, would be nice to have some boost control, programmable outputs, etc
the only good thing is that nothings broke for a while. drag radials helped be a little more consistent with the launches. i've finally set up some front straps that should keep the front end down, will see if i can bump the 2step rpm up a little and get 60' down next chance i get out to the track. I should really just enjoy it for a while before tearing it all back apart but who knows....
enjoy a little highlight reel of me ****** up some 10/11sec cars. still no bump box or anything, most of these im not really racing trying to cut the light...if i can 2x bulb in and get on the transbrake as soon as other car does i can build enough boost and get a decent RT
You have nothing you should disappointed with in my opinion. 10.4sec in a still fully loaded Denali is not slow, its scary fast. Anyone who scoffs at 10.4@135 full size SUV ain't ever tried to make one.
If you search up turbo Denali's you basically have the fastest one in the whole internet search. You see a bunch of "1500hp turbo" bullshit and a bunch of Denali's showing off on dynos and then making 13sec passes.... Then this video you posted is in with all of them, with you disappointing the owners of some very nice cars.
It's a great build. I'd show this on off with pride.
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