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Old Sep 12, 2019 | 03:27 PM
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Hello I was wondering if anyone had any experience with running meth through a truck manifold. I was told by the guys at prometh that the only way to safely run it is a direct port system. Im building a mild daily driven 2010 GMC Sierra. I was hoping to run meth for added octane and cooling.

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Old Sep 17, 2019 | 03:40 AM
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I'm guessing the guys at prometh had just such a system they were willing to sell you? FI manifolds designed for dry airflow only can exhibit poor wet flow characteristics, but people have run meth through much worse than the gm truck manifolds with good results. You may be seriously overthinking this.
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Old Sep 17, 2019 | 09:55 AM
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I have used a truck intake with meth from very beginning, wasnt aware i had any issues?.....
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Old Sep 17, 2019 | 10:52 AM
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yeah since that engine masters episode I see a lot less pump+meth cars

my take is that it's a good thing the back 2 holes get the bulk of wet flow, since those are the ones that tend to run lean anyways.

also, if you're running holley you can target AFR and offset timing for specific cylinders, which is kinda nice
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Originally Posted by truckdoug
yeah since that engine masters episode I see a lot less pump+meth cars

my take is that it's a good thing the back 2 holes get the bulk of wet flow, since those are the ones that tend to run lean anyways.

also, if you're running holley you can target AFR and offset timing for specific cylinders, which is kinda nice

Great point. Im not running holley efi on this build or else that would be a most. I appreciated everyone input. I am building this truck for my lady that has little to no experience with working on cars so if things start to go wrong she might keep driving until it pops so I want as much safety as possible.
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Old Sep 18, 2019 | 05:35 PM
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Supposedly the stock intake manifolds pool water/meth vs distributing it evenly... they also allow the bulk to go to the back 2 cylinders. Like truckdoug said I'm glad it does with the bulk of #7 cylinders committing suicide. I have been running water/meth in ONLY truck intakes for a few years now and never had any issues. I run 15psi on the cheapest 93 pump I can buy and shoot alittle wiper fluid for extra safety. This is on a street only car but I'm in boost at just about every second I can be lol. The best is the smell the burnt wiper fluid gives off after a boost pull... smells kinda sweet. I inject as far away from the TB as possible (After my FMIC) to help with cooling the charge as much as possible. Ive tried injecting around the TB and it sorta makes a mess but I inject a good 3ft away now and I see no residue at the TB or in the intake manifold. I just pulled my TB to drill and tap the water pump for a temp sensor and snapped a pic of inside my NNBS intake which was BRAND NEW and has had a few gallons of wiper fluid sprayed inside it over the couple hundred miles its been on the car. I will find it and add it to this thread.
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I don’t see any pooling do you?

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I don’t see any pooling do you?

No not at all. Like stated above Prometh just might have been trying to sell me a direct port kit. Its a beautiful kit but not NEEDED. How many GPH or CC nozzle do you run?
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Originally Posted by 1toofastlt1
No not at all. Like stated above Prometh just might have been trying to sell me a direct port kit. Its a beautiful kit but not NEEDED. How many GPH or CC nozzle do you run?
The nice thing about the blue wiper fluid or the pink/red boost juice is the dye after it dries shows up pretty easily so you can see where liquid has pooled/run. You would see dried pool reminiscent or fluid running lines if it was clinging to the walls inside the intake tube.

I only spray 750cc/ml constant flow at full spray (AEM progressive controller) and a snow pump (think its 250psi or 300psi). But I have a FMIC and ive tried spraying more and it can create a bog during a pull. Wiper fluid is only 70water/30meth so you spray less.
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by truckdoug
yeah since that engine masters episode I see a lot less pump+meth cars

my take is that it's a good thing the back 2 holes get the bulk of wet flow, since those are the ones that tend to run lean anyways.

also, if you're running holley you can target AFR and offset timing for specific cylinders, which is kinda nice

yea because they were using way too much water/meth.


BTW, I dont care about their test....i'm still adding it to mine.
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Old Sep 22, 2019 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by truckdoug
yeah since that engine masters episode I see a lot less pump+meth cars

my take is that it's a good thing the back 2 holes get the bulk of wet flow, since those are the ones that tend to run lean anyways.

also, if you're running holley you can target AFR and offset timing for specific cylinders, which is kinda nice
It was an interesting test...but a flawed one.
Would be much better to do a proper live test holding static rpm's for a short period and with sensors in all 8 cylinders at the same time.

I think they or RH did post recently about some tests coming up with 8 lambdas, which would also be helpful for distribution. A test at a static load with and without meth injection in operation would give very good info

It'd certainly be a lot more useful and interesting than bloody mechanical carburettor fuel pumps ? Like WTF.
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they gotta appeal to the masses...and for some goddamn reason the small block chevy is still the most popular engine for aftermarket parts
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Old Sep 27, 2019 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by truckdoug
they gotta appeal to the masses...and for some goddamn reason the small block chevy is still the most popular engine for aftermarket parts
Just gotta wait for the old guys to die out lol.

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