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Old Nov 26, 2019 | 08:18 AM
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That seems like an awful lot of boost for 4.50s.
Takes a lot for a little 5.3 to make big power. That is knocking on a 6 second 1/4 mile pass.
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Old Nov 26, 2019 | 08:43 AM
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Its boost . Quench is negated lol
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Old Nov 26, 2019 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by svslow
Takes a lot for a little 5.3 to make big power. That is knocking on a 6 second 1/4 mile pass.
Didn't Capizzi just run 4.50 on a stock bottom end 5.3 on 28 PSI on stock 5.3 head gaskets?
A couple of years ago I was at the track with a buddy of mine helping him with his first gen Camaro (full tube car).
He went hoping for 5.30s and we were down to 4.88 by the time we left on a forged 4.8 at the top of his 3-bar MAP (twin S369s, Hi-ram with fabricated top, A/W, on methanol).
He sold the car right after, one of the guys that works for one of the LS wiring harness companies (can't remember which) has it now but I think bought it as a roller.

I guess weight plays a big factor, Capizzi is somewhere around 2700 lbs and the Camaro was 2400, as does fuel type, track conditions, etc.

I'm a pretty big proponent of the actual amount of boost being irrelevant in most cases, but almost 50 lb seems like a lot lol.
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Old Nov 26, 2019 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeNova

I guess weight plays a big factor, Capizzi is somewhere around 2700 lbs and the Camaro was 2400, as does fuel type, track conditions, etc.

I'm a pretty big proponent of the actual amount of boost being irrelevant in most cases, but almost 50 lb seems like a lot lol.
I think Capizzi's new car is very very very light. But who knows. No one likes to tell everyone the whole truth about their set up these days.
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Old Nov 26, 2019 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ls13ater
We have been 4.50’s on a 5.3 with ls9 gasket, 46-48lbs
Diesel boost!
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Old Nov 26, 2019 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
Didn't Capizzi just run 4.50 on a stock bottom end 5.3 on 28 PSI on stock 5.3 head gaskets?
A couple of years ago I was at the track with a buddy of mine helping him with his first gen Camaro (full tube car).
He went hoping for 5.30s and we were down to 4.88 by the time we left on a forged 4.8 at the top of his 3-bar MAP (twin S369s, Hi-ram with fabricated top, A/W, on methanol).
He sold the car right after, one of the guys that works for one of the LS wiring harness companies (can't remember which) has it now but I think bought it as a roller.

I guess weight plays a big factor, Capizzi is somewhere around 2700 lbs and the Camaro was 2400, as does fuel type, track conditions, etc.

I'm a pretty big proponent of the actual amount of boost being irrelevant in most cases, but almost 50 lb seems like a lot lol.
maybe he is wayyyyyy off the compressor map and all that boost isn’t making much more power than it would at 30psi
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Old Nov 26, 2019 | 12:22 PM
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Depends on where boost is being measured from, whether or not it was a gate-pinned pass, etc.
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Old Nov 26, 2019 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragframe
maybe he is wayyyyyy off the compressor map and all that boost isn’t making much more power than it would at 30psi
Seen north of 36-37 and was still picking up on a 5.3, on a 408 turbo was out of steam trying to make 27.
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Old Nov 26, 2019 | 12:29 PM
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I maxed out my billet S475 on my L33 a few years ago. It wouldn't make power over 28 PSI.
My wastegate failed not too long after and I managed 42 PSI, 182% duty cycle on my deka 80s at 60 PSI base with a 1:1, on 93 octane. I'm positive it wasn't making anymore power, despite nearly another full bar of boost.
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
I maxed out my billet S475 on my L33 a few years ago. It wouldn't make power over 28 PSI.
My wastegate failed not too long after and I managed 42 PSI, 182% duty cycle on my deka 80s at 60 PSI base with a 1:1, on 93 octane. I'm positive it wasn't making anymore power, despite nearly another full bar of boost.
Hard to make power when your not giving it any more fuel or timing. 182% is just static and deka 80's aren't that big. Plus 93 doesn't lend itself to being the best high boost fuel. Little 5.3's can take 70% from 210's on E85, I went to them after maxing out 80's on 93 as well.
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Old Nov 26, 2019 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by freeky
those were the ones i just bought for my engine .looks like there three piece
Yes three piece, a little pricey compared to ls9 in the past but rock auto had them pretty cheap recently.
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Old Nov 27, 2019 | 09:08 AM
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I ordered factory 5.3 mls gaskets for $64 for the pair.
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Old Nov 27, 2019 | 11:19 AM
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The 5.3l MLS gaskets will hold up just as long as any one component in a SBE engine lol. People having trouble with them are missing on the tune up and the combo in general. People trying to make diesel torque with the wrong cams hurt them too.
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Old Nov 27, 2019 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by hellbents-10
The 5.3l MLS gaskets will hold up just as long as any one component in a SBE engine lol. People having trouble with them are missing on the tune up and the combo in general. People trying to make diesel torque with the wrong cams hurt them too.
For the most part I agree, but not everyone races 2500lb automatic cruise missiles. When you race 4000+ lb manual trans land yachts you need some tq to run any sort of decent time. Have made 1000+ tq on a 5.3 without issues from an LS9 gasket with 230/235 114, 237/234 117, 231/239 113 cams. If you have some cam suggestions that would work better I'm all ears!
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Old Nov 27, 2019 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
For the most part I agree, but not everyone races 2500lb automatic cruise missiles. When you race 4000+ lb manual trans land yachts you need some tq to run any sort of decent time. Have made 1000+ tq on a 5.3 without issues from an LS9 gasket with 230/235 114, 237/234 117, 231/239 113 cams. If you have some cam suggestions that would work better I'm all ears!
What rpm did torque start to drop off for stated cams?
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Old Nov 27, 2019 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tblentrprz
What rpm did torque start to drop off for stated cams?
6000’ish before tq tapers over. Tried hi-ram,pro-flo xt, super vic intakes. Launch about 4500, shift 7700-7800 usually. Tried 317,862,243 heads, the worst heads on paper (862) had best mph.
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Old Nov 27, 2019 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Kfxguy
I ordered factory 5.3 mls gaskets for $64 for the pair.
awesome!
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Old Nov 27, 2019 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ls13ater
We have been 4.50’s on a 5.3 with ls9 gasket, 46-48lbs
Did you mean Cummins N14 instead of 5.3?
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Old Nov 28, 2019 | 08:22 AM
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I use these with 317 heads on a 5.3 they are 5 layer with a 4.080 bore. Have been as high as 25lbs with no problems. GM OEM-Engine Cylinder Head Gasket 12610046
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Anyone doing the coolant flow mod on their gaskets (additional holes on the exhaust side coolant passages)?
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