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Old Nov 18, 2020 | 12:45 PM
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He also told me my cam would never make power in my setup (it made 30 HP per PSI on a 4.8), that he tested the SS2 cam on Tooley's spintron and it sucked (this got him fired for lying), and that VSRacing turbos will never make power or go fast. He also literally calls himself a cam grinder (he has never cut a cam), and somehow thinks that choosing lobes out of Comp's lobe catalog means the cam his somehow is own proprietary design.

Bewley is a keyboard warrior that uses other's results as his "proof", having done very very very little on his own. Take everything he says with a grain of salt.
Totally agree. Especially funny because he sells VSR turbos now!
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Old Nov 18, 2020 | 01:17 PM
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Maybe at one time, but they have long since parted ways. Spoke with the Squirrel tuned fella. John spec'd his cam supposedly. It was a little out of the norm too. Ground on a 111+5 LSA. Believe it was a 227/233 with around .600 lift. I don't follow him or his stuff closely. But the SBE record holder cams/combos are always of interest to me.
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Old Nov 18, 2020 | 02:33 PM
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totally agree. Especially funny because he sells vsr turbos now!
The sloppy army vs fat john was perhaps the most entertaining internet event of the year!
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Old Nov 18, 2020 | 02:58 PM
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LOL I knew the Bewley comments would follow. I absolutely agree with everything said here before, and I don't follow him at all anymore. Just something he said, take it for what you will.
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Old Nov 18, 2020 | 07:26 PM
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This is the vsracing s480-s485 with race cover and “aero unit” $750

However, someone I know crashed last week and passed away. Car has rear mount twin 66s on it. Built 408 with a m28 built trans , whatever the hell thT is... I got my th400 already anyways. Working on grabbing the car for 3k. That would change things a bit. It made 550 on e85 on 8psi. He was waiting to install the new trans to up boost and other night was cold and car got away from him.
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Old Nov 19, 2020 | 10:10 AM
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Wow that is terrible. Condolences to those involved. We lost Joe Hunt, a super well known local racer to a wreck about 1.5 years ago now. Sucks big time.
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Old Nov 19, 2020 | 10:19 AM
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Wow that is terrible. Condolences to those involved. We lost Joe Hunt, a super well known local racer to a wreck about 1.5 years ago now. Sucks big time.
I know him but not super well. It hit me hard though, I have kids and I’ll go out and do highway pulls etc. it was only 2 streets away from my place. My car makes more power and has same v8 and in the same chassis as mine. I know first hand that the car doesn’t feel the same as it did with factory twin turbo v6 (Nissan) . The car isn’t a machine for corners or fun driving through curved roads anymore. Bubble tires add to the scare of it. I’ve had few times of getting loose at 80+ and letting off pedal to much. It’s a learning curve for sure.

worst part, car had a cage but only 6pt. From seats back. He would be alive if cage was finished across pillars.
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I've definitely stepped up my safety game since Joe's deal. Several other people around here have as well, if that is one thing you can take away positive from it. He had an 8.50 cage in his car but it was for sure well into the 7's (388 and twin 76's on methanol). From what I've heard a different cage probably wouldn't have saved him. One little thing being different though and he wrecks his car and probably walks away vs. passing. Sucks to hear about your local dude but keep spreading the word in a respectful manner. Hopefully people take something away from it and make an appt with a chassis guy or order a hold and weld kit online.
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Originally Posted by Forcefed86
Maybe at one time, but they have long since parted ways. Spoke with the Squirrel tuned fella. John spec'd his cam supposedly. It was a little out of the norm too. Ground on a 111+5 LSA. Believe it was a 227/233 with around .600 lift. I don't follow him or his stuff closely. But the SBE record holder cams/combos are always of interest to me.
Find me any high dollar big power setup NOT specced by Bewley that isn't running amazing times and blames the camshaft for it.
The guys breaking these records have such overkill setups, they could toss in a shelf cam with +/- 5 .050" duration, +/- .030" lift, and +/- 3 degrees of LSA and run within a tenth of their current times.
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Find me any high dollar big power setup NOT specced by Bewley that isn't running amazing times and blames the camshaft for it.
The guys breaking these records have such overkill setups, they could toss in a shelf cam with +/- 5 .050" duration, +/- .030" lift, and +/- 3 degrees of LSA and run within a tenth of their current times.
Absolutely agree with that. People make WAY too big of a deal with cam shafts on turbo motors. Most are very over camm'd IMO.
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Originally Posted by AwesomeAuto
Find me any high dollar big power setup NOT specced by Bewley that isn't running amazing times and blames the camshaft for it.
The guys breaking these records have such overkill setups, they could toss in a shelf cam with +/- 5 .050" duration, +/- .030" lift, and +/- 3 degrees of LSA and run within a tenth of their current times.
We took out cheeseburgers cam, used a summit cam and picked up power/mph at lower boost.
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Originally Posted by AwesomeAuto
Find me any high dollar big power setup NOT specced by Bewley that isn't running amazing times and blames the camshaft for it.
The guys breaking these records have such overkill setups, they could toss in a shelf cam with +/- 5 .050" duration, +/- .030" lift, and +/- 3 degrees of LSA and run within a tenth of their current times.
I don't doubt it! The tighter than the "norm" LSA did stick out on that particular cam... But I was speaking less of "magic valve events" and more of these "soft" gentle ramp rate lobes people keep talking about.

First it was Baker with Capizzi... Then Bewley with Jack Roberts 4.8... Summit also states their new turbo cams are more gentle on the valvetrain. I'd like to know what lobe they are going with... is it marine stuff?
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