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Old Dec 2, 2020 | 09:34 AM
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Ok so as the title states, I currently have a P1SC ProCharger and have it making 16 psi and its spinning about as fast as it can. I've got a large A2A Intercooler and its time for some more power.
Was just gonna pull the ProCharger off and sell it but got to thinking about possibly feeding the turbo from the ProCharger to get it to spool up quicker and make more boost.
I've seen plenty of setups using positive displacement SCs but havent seen a whole lot on centrifugal type blowers.
BTW this is all on a built SBC in my 67' Camaro.
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Old Dec 2, 2020 | 09:52 AM
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Procharger would just get in the way, proper turbo setup will spool faster and make a ton more power than that P1.
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Old Dec 2, 2020 | 10:07 AM
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Sell the Procharger setup and just go turbo. If auto, get a stall for the turbo...
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Procharger would just get in the way, proper turbo setup will spool faster and make a ton more power than that P1.
Kinda thought that would be the case simply by the amount of air being bottlenecked.

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Sell the Procharger setup and just go turbo. If auto, get a stall for the turbo...
I've got a 3000 stall now with a manual valve body so it should work pretty well.

Guess its time for turbo, or turbo(s), might just run a large single instead of plumbing twins..
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Old Dec 2, 2020 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Speed Freek
Guess its time for turbo, or turbo(s), might just run a large single instead of plumbing twins..
Check this out... https://www.cxracing.com/products-by...-CAMARO6769-IC
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Originally Posted by jaydubb
Yeah I was looking for kits but most are for LS swapped setups, mine still has an SBC.
Ive seen turbo forward facing headers for the 2nd gen camaros with SBC and looks like they would work.
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Originally Posted by Speed Freek
Kinda thought that would be the case simply by the amount of air being bottlenecked.


I've got a 3000 stall now with a manual valve body so it should work pretty well.

Guess its time for turbo, or turbo(s), might just run a large single instead of plumbing twins..
I like fabbing my own vs getting a kit, not only cheaper but you can really make things fit where you want. The fairly cheap ebay forward turbo manifolds work great and have held up well even hanging a 70lb turbo on them, no cracking or anything. The $300 Holley flowtech work great too if you can make them fit. Fabbing pipes for single vs twins can go either way, I made at least 5 kits during covid from high mount small single, large single, low mount single, rear mount, then to large twins. I almost think the large twins was the easiest packaging and I was able to fit two mufflers with them but it just depends on how much room you have. Don't be scared of the cheaper VSR turbos either, they work great and the dual vband turbines make packaging very sleek and spool quick. Even a fairly small one will probably make 150-200hp more than the P1 (not sure what your goals are).

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Old Dec 2, 2020 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Freek
Yeah I was looking for kits but most are for LS swapped setups, mine still has an SBC.
Ive seen turbo forward facing headers for the 2nd gen camaros with SBC and looks like they would work.
Ahhhhh... I dont know why I thought you were LS swapped... Does this work for you? https://www.cxracing.com/products-by...0-V-TT-GT35-T4

Or this? https://www.cxracing.com/products-by...-CAMARO6769-IC
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Originally Posted by jaydubb
Ahhhhh... I dont know why I thought you were LS swapped... Does this work for you? https://www.cxracing.com/products-by...0-V-TT-GT35-T4

Or this? https://www.cxracing.com/products-by...-CAMARO6769-IC
That's pretty expensive for chyna stuff with a baby turbo. I certainly used some chyna items, but got way more bang for the buck:

ebay forward manifolds (come with vbands) $250
2 VSR knockoff 50mm gates at $58 each
1 knockoff 50mm blow off valve $40
2 VSR 7875's (come with vbands and fittings) $400 each
Summit couplers, clamps and pre bent 2.5 and 3" tubing pieces (complete with tshirt to get free shipping) $100
Procharger 3.5 inlet carb hat $184
2 Totalflow 10" race mufflers $35 each
Ebay AN oil feed and return lines $35
2 Amazon T4 turbo blankets $26 each
Amazon MAC boost solenoid $25

So roughly $1700 for a kit that I slapped together in a weekend in my garage. It happened to run low 9's first time out on baby boost and 17" wheels, seems good enough to me.



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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
That's pretty expensive for chyna stuff with a baby turbo. I certainly used some chyna items, but got way more bang for the buck:

ebay forward manifolds (come with vbands) $250
2 VSR knockoff 50mm gates at $58 each
1 knockoff 50mm blow off valve $40
2 VSR 7875's (come with vbands and fittings) $400 each
Summit couplers, clamps and pre bent 2.5 and 3" tubing pieces (complete with tshirt to get free shipping) $100
Procharger 3.5 inlet carb hat $184
2 Totalflow 10" race mufflers $35 each
Ebay AN oil feed and return lines $35
2 Amazon T4 turbo blankets $26 each
Amazon MAC boost solenoid $25

So roughly $1700 for a kit that I slapped together in a weekend in my garage. It happened to run low 9's first time out on baby boost and 17" wheels, seems good enough to me.
I guess if you can weld, you'll be OK. I can solder the heck out of a wire so I will be teaching myslef to weld soon...
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Originally Posted by jaydubb
I guess if you can weld, you'll be OK. I can solder the heck out of a wire so I will be teaching myslef to weld soon...
Add in a Harbor Freight welder for $350 I practiced for a couple nights and made a turbo kit the weekend after getting a welder, it aint that bad.
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Add in a Harbor Freight welder for $350 I practiced for a couple nights and made a turbo kit the weekend after getting a welder, it aint that bad.
You got a MIG or TIG welder?
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
That's pretty expensive for chyna stuff with a baby turbo. I certainly used some chyna items, but got way more bang for the buck:

ebay forward manifolds (come with vbands) $250
2 VSR knockoff 50mm gates at $58 each
1 knockoff 50mm blow off valve $40
2 VSR 7875's (come with vbands and fittings) $400 each
Summit couplers, clamps and pre bent 2.5 and 3" tubing pieces (complete with tshirt to get free shipping) $100
Procharger 3.5 inlet carb hat $184
2 Totalflow 10" race mufflers $35 each
Ebay AN oil feed and return lines $35
2 Amazon T4 turbo blankets $26 each
Amazon MAC boost solenoid $25

So roughly $1700 for a kit that I slapped together in a weekend in my garage. It happened to run low 9's first time out on baby boost and 17" wheels, seems good enough to me.
You can get the ebay headers for $100 shipped now.
Also, ebay billet 7875s are identical to VSR Gen 1s (I've disassembled them) with the exception of the billet compressor wheel, and are $260 each.

That would drop the price to roughly $1250, and a pair of those billet 7875s is good to ~1400 HP on an average setup.
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Originally Posted by jaydubb
You got a MIG or TIG welder?
Mig is all you need for exhaust pipes, unless you are trying to win scene points with pie cuts and tig welds.
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Originally Posted by AwesomeAuto
You can get the ebay headers for $100 shipped now.
Also, ebay billet 7875s are identical to VSR Gen 1s (I've disassembled them) with the exception of the billet compressor wheel, and are $260 each.

That would drop the price to roughly $1250, and a pair of those billet 7875s is good to ~1400 HP on an average setup.
Identical except for how long they last... ebay 7875 broke on me pretty quick. VSR has lasted years, plus I have the dual vband turbine thats not on the ebay units. I have zero desire to ever go back to a typical turbo flange again.

Link to the $100 manifolds? I know you can get the flowtech style cheap but not these that I’ve seen:

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Old Dec 2, 2020 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Mig is all you need for exhaust pipes, unless you are trying to win scene points with pie cuts and tig welds.
Even with stainless?
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Originally Posted by jaydubb
Even with stainless?
Stainless is super easy to Mig. You can even Mig aluminum, basically everything from china is done that way with a spool gun.
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Have you not considered just upgrading the Procharger to a p1x or D1x? They seem to be making a loads of power and would need less fab work?
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Stainless is super easy to Mig. You can even Mig aluminum, basically everything from china is done that way with a spool gun.
So I guess the myth that you NEED a Tig welder to weld aluminum is BUSTED. LOL!
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Originally Posted by chuntington101
Have you not considered just upgrading the Procharger to a p1x or D1x? They seem to be making a loads of power and would need less fab work?
Agree, just depends what he's looking for. The D1X has made ~900hp leaning on it pretty good and costs $3,200 for head unit alone which he can offset selling his P1.


Originally Posted by jaydubb
So I guess the myth that you NEED a Tig welder to weld aluminum is BUSTED. LOL!
You NEED it if your trying to win a SEMA build off or do a chromoly cage, but for day to day tasks you can easily get by with a simple unit.
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