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Old Dec 17, 2020 | 06:43 PM
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Does it make much difference in iat having the turbo intake shielded in engine compartment on single turbo street car. Whats the ideal size and type of filter I should be using on a 4in inlet diameter turbo
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As big a filter you can fit is the best
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Size isn't everything! lol

R2C Black air filters are the best I've seen. Super popular with the diesel crowds.

They flow 480-495 CFM per sq./ft. at .5" WG

Compared to K&N media that flows 68-72 CFM per sq./ft. at .5" WG

So thats like 6-7x what an K&N does in a like size filter.... Pretty substantial.

http://www.r2cperformance.com/black-...l-filters.aspx
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Old Dec 28, 2020 | 02:08 PM
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Forceded86,
that’s impressive. Thanks for sharing
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Old Dec 28, 2020 | 02:13 PM
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I'm in the camp that believes the cooler the air going into the turbo is less work the intercooler has to do. Maybe I should test my theory.
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Originally Posted by Forcefed86
Size isn't everything! lol

R2C Black air filters are the best I've seen. Super popular with the diesel crowds.

They flow 480-495 CFM per sq./ft. at .5" WG

Compared to K&N media that flows 68-72 CFM per sq./ft. at .5" WG

So thats like 6-7x what an K&N does in a like size filter.... Pretty substantial.

http://www.r2cperformance.com/black-...l-filters.aspx
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This is mine, S&B oiled, 12 in x 5.25in. Not sure what the S&B filter material flows.

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Old Dec 28, 2020 | 03:52 PM
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S&B are great! lots of size choices and great website. Ran one of those for years before switching to the R2C. (believe it was a dry filter) Also FWIW I saw no difference in performance at around 900 crank power levels switching to the R2C. Think it was only a 6.5" filter as well, feeding an S480.


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I've always used AFE and wonder how they compare. Also wonder why R2C doesn't offer a reverse cone. That would add a substantial amount of filter area.
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These are mine....sucks having zero room lol.

Although surprisingly pressure drop inside the filters is a lot lower than I'd have ever expected. So not worried.

https://burgertuning.com/products/bm...4fcb7a3f&_ss=r

Always fit as big as you can though, and always good quality
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Originally Posted by 2JZFC
I've always used AFE and wonder how they compare. Also wonder why R2C doesn't offer a reverse cone. That would add a substantial amount of filter area.
They do offer the inverted cone
I have depression data on both the the black hex and aFe dry flow in the real world

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Old Jan 4, 2021 | 01:31 AM
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I made a ram air type scoop that seals off the filter from engine heat and only allows air to enter from the grill area. It’s not a perfect cylinder, it tapers as it goes toward the turbo.



I also run the aFe filter. HUGE pita to make a cone shape with a flange that tapers 2/3 of the way around but is flat across the “top” as in my case.
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Old Jan 4, 2021 | 05:34 AM
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Placing obstacles close to the filter will do nothing to aid flow, give as much room around it as possible.
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Here is the new black hex pictured, larger than the AFE.

​​​​​​Good bit up over 1k hp, you can see the MAF... Just under 140lb/min in the lower pane

​​​​​​Depression showed in lower pane aswell
~5kpa, so less than 1 psi there still even
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And here is the smaller, dirty old AFE vs the black hex at 1000hp

100lb/hr. Overlaid
black hex Just a little bit better but if the AFE was fresh I'm not sure

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Even my tiny little filters were only showing around 50kpa drop. Which for their size, I was more than happy with, and quite surprised.
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Zac, great feedback! Seems to me at the 750-800rwhp level, it would be a wash between those two and it comes down to price and finding a size/shape that fits.
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No problem, data is ftw lol
Eeither one would be great and honestly the AFE would be right there If it was fresh, Even though it's about a wash right now


I used that AFE in a high dust environment on my compound turbo diesel.... It is crinkled because I had dropped kicked it across the shop lol
I had very fine dust on the inlet tube getting past the filter, So a paper filter went back on

But on a streetcar out of very fine gravel dust it's fine lol
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You can configure the AFe filter how you want btw. Check out their website and making a custom filter
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Where are you guys buying the R2C's from? It looks like you have to go through a distributor and can't just click and buy online?
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Where are you guys buying the R2C's from? It looks like you have to go through a distributor and can't just click and buy online?
I went to Summits website but the measurements for them are really confusing, way to many numbers for my dumbass lol.
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