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Old Jul 26, 2021 | 09:22 AM
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wondering if any one has any experience with either of the above mentioned coolers, im putting together a twin setup for my 72 nova, building a 370 or 408 forged shortblock built for boost using a lq4 block, i have a set of l92 heads and i just picked up a holley midram for the top end. also have a summit stage 4 cam. the turbo set up is a cxracing kit with a pair of 7681s. no real power goals in mind, i know the cxracing kit is chinesium junk and will probably upgrade in the future. trying to avoid cutting up the front of the car to put a A2A cooler. any insight would be helpful. thanks
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Old Aug 4, 2021 | 11:42 AM
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The Shearer intake is a much better product in my opinion. Have several close friends with them, none that have switched from the Tick, but one that switched from a 417 sandwich style intercooler, and saw decent improvements. They are quality pieces no doubt. That being said, I would be more concerned about the Mid Ram than anything. Those intakes are not great, a low ram lower and a shearer fab low pro intercooler with fabricated lid would have been my choice. Give Ron at Shearer a call, or one of their dealers, they will hook you up.
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Shearer makes incredible stuff, his Holley modified high ram makes me moist, yeah I said it, MOIST.
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Mid ram intake for top end? The mid ram has the lowest top end of the low/mid/hi Holley variations, to me a stage 4 cam and a mid ram don't go together.

I agree, the 417 is crap. Having had the Shearer holley unit its nice but a proper large A/W core works better if you have the space but the Shearer unit will get you a long way if you don't mind it hanging out the hood.
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Originally Posted by Trangsa
The Shearer intake is a much better product in my opinion. Have several close friends with them, none that have switched from the Tick, but one that switched from a 417 sandwich style intercooler, and saw decent improvements. They are quality pieces no doubt. That being said, I would be more concerned about the Mid Ram than anything. Those intakes are not great, a low ram lower and a shearer fab low pro intercooler with fabricated lid would have been my choice. Give Ron at Shearer a call, or one of their dealers, they will hook you up.
i may switch to the high ram, nobody had the low ram in stock and I was worried about hood clearence. I talked to ron and ended up buying his 1800 hp brick, 7 gallon tank and pump from him. he was great to deal with and everything was delivered quickly. Im now thinking of selling the cxracing kit and going with a set of flotech headers and a set of s366 turbos or 6266s instead and just fab up hot and cold sides.
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Mid ram intake for top end? The mid ram has the lowest top end of the low/mid/hi Holley variations, to me a stage 4 cam and a mid ram don't go together.

I agree, the 417 is crap. Having had the Shearer holley unit its nice but a proper large A/W core works better if you have the space but the Shearer unit will get you a long way if you don't mind it hanging out the hood.
"top end" was refering to top of motor not top end power, its going in a 72 nova with a 4 inch harwood hood and im hoping to keep everything under the hood, if it will not fit then i will probably just go with the high ram. this is my first turbo ls build so i am a bit green, previous setup was a bbc with a roots blower, then a bbc with a vortec v7 ys trim and accel dfi. both made about 800 hp, just looking for something that is a bit tamer and a bit more power
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Some of that CX Racing stuff isn't too bad, I know several guys including myself who've run the hotside parts for years, I ran their 4" I/C on my 4th Gen and it worked just fine.
I'd say run the CX hotside, it may work just fine and last, sort out the rest of the combo and then have a custom built badass stainless hotside built later.
You won't get the BBC torque but a 408 with twin S366's would make a lot of usable power, 800-900whp on pump gas should be plenty attainable.
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I'm not a fan of the placement the cx headers put the turbos at, figured they are designed to help placement of the ic tubing, I can fabricate pretty good so its not a major deal for me to make up new piping as I do custom exhaust work anyway. the flowtech headers are super cheap, I think the 7681s are gonna be to big for what I want, so its probably easier to get rid of everything and build what i want the first time instead of being unhappy with a laggy setup. if it makes similar power I will be happy, i'd imagine it has to be quite a bit lighter and hopefully have some better driving chararteristics.
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Originally Posted by petesripper
"top end" was refering to top of motor not top end power, its going in a 72 nova with a 4 inch harwood hood and im hoping to keep everything under the hood, if it will not fit then i will probably just go with the high ram. this is my first turbo ls build so i am a bit green, previous setup was a bbc with a roots blower, then a bbc with a vortec v7 ys trim and accel dfi. both made about 800 hp, just looking for something that is a bit tamer and a bit more power
Might fit, how thick is the intercooler?
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Might fit, how thick is the intercooler?
it measures just shy of 5"
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Eh, I think high ram + 5" won't clear a 4" hood on a Nova.

I can ask in our FB ls first gen group.
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Eh, I think high ram + 5" won't clear a 4" hood on a Nova.

I can ask in our FB ls first gen group.
starting off with a mid ram
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I know a guy with a Nova, High Ram, and I'm checking if this is the Shearer 'cooler.




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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
I know a guy with a Nova, High Ram, and I'm checking if this is the Shearer 'cooler.

looks like the same one i got
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He confirmed it's a Shearer.


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Yeah maybe find out the difference 'tween the mid ram and the high ram.

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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Yeah maybe find out the difference 'tween the mid ram and the high ram.
md ram s about 2 inches shorter
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This is what its going in

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shearer with the fabricated lid saves about 2" over the holley lid, moves the throttle body back about 4", and saves room at the cowl

i think they just threw up some new diagrams on their website showing them overlayed:



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