Tick A2W Intercooler questions.
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I think ultimately it was a combination of things. After running it through the ringer I personally believe it’s too small to carry a “1500hp” rating. There are people who would argue it does “support” 1500 because it flows enough air for 1500 but the cooling capability leaves quite a bit to be desired. I have always been curious if the small Tick version would perform any better due to the different design in end tanks etc or if it is in fact just a size constraint. To this day there is still very little information when it comes to shared data on these things.
I felt like that was the case in the post Slow Sedan shared but was really telling was how LJMS/417 failed to step up and make it right.
Another member on here bought a Shearer cooler like the one the gent with the CTSV went with and his actually failed at one of the welds after much abuse and Ron took the old one back and sent him a new one no questions asked.
I would do business with Shearer based on that, the quality product and the results realized, a trifecta for success.
Another member on here bought a Shearer cooler like the one the gent with the CTSV went with and his actually failed at one of the welds after much abuse and Ron took the old one back and sent him a new one no questions asked.
I would do business with Shearer based on that, the quality product and the results realized, a trifecta for success.
I think ultimately it was a combination of things. After running it through the ringer I personally believe it’s too small to carry a “1500hp” rating. There are people who would argue it does “support” 1500 because it flows enough air for 1500 but the cooling capability leaves quite a bit to be desired. I have always been curious if the small Tick version would perform any better due to the different design in end tanks etc or if it is in fact just a size constraint. To this day there is still very little information when it comes to shared data on these things.
One of the guys is trying a Tick A/W, is a tuner and smart. I look forward to his sharing of results. 
I'd like to see a dyno test of a a/w brick with a low ram vs a high ram base.
I'd like to see a dyno test of a a/w brick with a low ram vs a high ram base.
Gary aka @Ratical is doing a 1800HP Shearer brick and I think a low ram, maybe he can chime in.
I think ultimately it was a combination of things. After running it through the ringer I personally believe it’s too small to carry a “1500hp” rating. There are people who would argue it does “support” 1500 because it flows enough air for 1500 but the cooling capability leaves quite a bit to be desired. I have always been curious if the small Tick version would perform any better due to the different design in end tanks etc or if it is in fact just a size constraint. To this day there is still very little information when it comes to shared data on these things.
Is Martin Smallwood still running Tick or is he not involved anymore?
Martin would tell you straight and if it went sideways would bend over backwards to help.
Ron's have a HP rating as well but the dims are significantly bigger which would lead me to believe Ron was looking to cover all applications and not just the ones it "should" work for.
I don't want to rehash this LJMS/417 should have sent you a 2,000HP unit and if that remedied it then send back the smaller one, apologize for the time spent chasing your tail and called it a day, that's all I'm gonna say about that.
He won't be anywhere near 1,400 wheel or crank but I'd still be curious to see how efficient it is on a milder combo.
Yes I am John. Combo isn't running yet, but it is a Shearer Fab 1800hp ULP and Holley Low Ram lower. Combo is a 388ci with Frankenstein M311 heads and twin 80/93 Forced induction T4 Borgs. I am hoping to turn it up to between 1500-1600rwhp so flywheel horsepower should be pretty close to the rating and should hopefully show some good data.
One of my friends had a Thompson 388 in a Foxbody with twin S476R's and made just under 1,500whp at 30ish lbs. iirc.
Easily put him into the 7's in the 1320.
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Brett Foote I see that unit has a 1,400hp rating so I'm immediately skeptical.
Is Martin Smallwood still running Tick or is he not involved anymore?
Martin would tell you straight and if it went sideways would bend over backwards to help.
Ron's have a HP rating as well but the dims are significantly bigger which would lead me to believe Ron was looking to cover all applications and not just the ones it "should" work for.
I don't want to rehash this LJMS/417 should have sent you a 2,000HP unit and if that remedied it then send back the smaller one, apologize for the time spent chasing your tail and called it a day, that's all I'm gonna say about that.
Is Martin Smallwood still running Tick or is he not involved anymore?
Martin would tell you straight and if it went sideways would bend over backwards to help.
Ron's have a HP rating as well but the dims are significantly bigger which would lead me to believe Ron was looking to cover all applications and not just the ones it "should" work for.
I don't want to rehash this LJMS/417 should have sent you a 2,000HP unit and if that remedied it then send back the smaller one, apologize for the time spent chasing your tail and called it a day, that's all I'm gonna say about that.
I think ultimately it was a combination of things. After running it through the ringer I personally believe it’s too small to carry a “1500hp” rating. There are people who would argue it does “support” 1500 because it flows enough air for 1500 but the cooling capability leaves quite a bit to be desired. I have always been curious if the small Tick version would perform any better due to the different design in end tanks etc or if it is in fact just a size constraint. To this day there is still very little information when it comes to shared data on these things.
I did the same thing actually.
I'd really like to know the differences and similarities in combo on the Crusty Nova and the CTS-V just to perhaps approximate why it fell short, just for curiosities sake.
I'd really like to know the differences and similarities in combo on the Crusty Nova and the CTS-V just to perhaps approximate why it fell short, just for curiosities sake.
The only car that ran that Tick a/w and said it was fine was Shane/Crusty Nova. Maybe something different his combo. The data in that thread from 2017 the users were showing it was not really checking all the boxes.
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If nothing else, it does seem that twins run a fair amount cooler than a single in terms of IAT.
For whatever it's worth, in the past year or so I changed from a 91mm S400 turbo to a 94mm GT55. I was expecting pre-cooler temps (and thus post cooler temps), to be at least noticeably cooler with the new turbo. That didn't seem to be the case. Not anything drastic at least.
If nothing else, it does seem that twins run a fair amount cooler than a single in terms of IAT.
For whatever it's worth, in the past year or so I changed from a 91mm S400 turbo to a 94mm GT55. I was expecting pre-cooler temps (and thus post cooler temps), to be at least noticeably cooler with the new turbo. That didn't seem to be the case. Not anything drastic at least.
For whatever it's worth, in the past year or so I changed from a 91mm S400 turbo to a 94mm GT55. I was expecting pre-cooler temps (and thus post cooler temps), to be at least noticeably cooler with the new turbo. That didn't seem to be the case. Not anything drastic at least.
Andrew
Interesting convo, hope we keep this going.
@gtistile car sounds like a beast, what is the latest iteration? What size engine? And I'm curious on the IATs.
@gtistile car sounds like a beast, what is the latest iteration? What size engine? And I'm curious on the IATs.
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Interesting convo, hope we keep this going.
@gtistile car sounds like a beast, whath is the latest iteration? What size engine? And I'm curious on the IATs.
@gtistile car sounds like a beast, whath is the latest iteration? What size engine? And I'm curious on the IATs.
New combo is a 383” LSX that I’ve not had the opportunity to turn up yet due to some other issues. It’s been faster to the 1/8th by a fair amount on much less boost so it’s showing potential. I don’t need to pay super close attention to the charge temps anymore but it’ll be interesting to see the difference once it’s dialed and sees 35-40# next year.
Tried to attach a pic of the new combo but its too large from my phone
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