Better to have more cubes or less with FI?
My concern would be having big cubes and ending up with a car you can't hook at all unless you are on slicks.
My combo (85mm, T400, 5.3, 3.50 gear, 29.5 tire, ~3200 r/weight) is laggy down low but pretty damn violent at 14 lbs. I like some lag because I can anticipate it. But I think a 6.0 based engine would be nice too.
My combo (85mm, T400, 5.3, 3.50 gear, 29.5 tire, ~3200 r/weight) is laggy down low but pretty damn violent at 14 lbs. I like some lag because I can anticipate it. But I think a 6.0 based engine would be nice too.
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My concern would be having big cubes and ending up with a car you can't hook at all unless you are on slicks.
My combo (85mm, T400, 5.3, 3.50 gear, 29.5 tire, ~3200 r/weight) is laggy down low but pretty damn violent at 14 lbs. I like some lag because I can anticipate it. But I think a 6.0 based engine would be nice too.
My combo (85mm, T400, 5.3, 3.50 gear, 29.5 tire, ~3200 r/weight) is laggy down low but pretty damn violent at 14 lbs. I like some lag because I can anticipate it. But I think a 6.0 based engine would be nice too.
This is why i think up to say a 408c.i. motor will not be laggy on part throtle and allow for lower boost levels to make the power for a 9 second car i can drive to the track. I can deal with a little bucking but if i can eliminate 99% that would be better.
Another thought, do you want more RPM capabilities to say 7500 or just shift 6200-6500? I know a lot depends on cam gears ect...
At idle my car (5.3, 85mm) is not making a lot of power. I'm not sure I would spin the tires if just stomped the gas pedal. Probably it would drive out a bit and then the tires would haze about 10 feet out.
No bucking.
My old daily 5th gen is a spin fest because of the loose converter and 3.91 gears. I can't leave heard on the street unless on slicks.
No bucking.
My old daily 5th gen is a spin fest because of the loose converter and 3.91 gears. I can't leave heard on the street unless on slicks.
Ok, when you say laggy do you mean it surges a bit in parkinglots or there is just a bit of a pause with you are part throttle?
This is why i think up to say a 408c.i. motor will not be laggy on part throtle and allow for lower boost levels to make the power for a 9 second car i can drive to the track. I can deal with a little bucking but if i can eliminate 99% that would be better.
Another thought, do you want more RPM capabilities to say 7500 or just shift 6200-6500? I know a lot depends on cam gears ect...
This is why i think up to say a 408c.i. motor will not be laggy on part throtle and allow for lower boost levels to make the power for a 9 second car i can drive to the track. I can deal with a little bucking but if i can eliminate 99% that would be better.
Another thought, do you want more RPM capabilities to say 7500 or just shift 6200-6500? I know a lot depends on cam gears ect...
I believe Pro Stock John has a turbo setup, which would be why he is talking about the lag.
You could throw a Kong blower with a cam on a LS3 and meet all your goals I'd believe.
You could throw a Kong blower with a cam on a LS3 and meet all your goals I'd believe.
With what your goals are and car preference I'd go with a base C6 with an ls3 and put a cam, exhaust, and procharger D1x on it. This setup will not make the power of a turbo or have huge upside potential, but can easily make the power and ET goals you have set. Linear, predictable power to help make it manageable and at the boost levels needed to achieve your goal it should be issue free. My ls3 is in a much heavier inferior car with tire size limitations and can meet your goals so you will not have a problem doing it in a C6 with E85.
The 5.3 turbo can and will have more power potential than the ls3 with the D1x, but when 800 hp is the goal the D1x is a very good street car option. Installs in a weekend too although maybe initially more money than a turbo setup.
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So if going with a super charger go with a Procharger or say a 2650 type as far as power delivery that is predictable?
I plan to build the car to take 1000rw but not push it that hard. So improved cooling, built rear end, upgraded torque tube ect.. Basically I want it built so that I can beat on it but not push it to the limit that it was built for.
I plan to build the car to take 1000rw but not push it that hard. So improved cooling, built rear end, upgraded torque tube ect.. Basically I want it built so that I can beat on it but not push it to the limit that it was built for.
So if going with a super charger go with a Procharger or say a 2650 type as far as power delivery that is predictable?
I plan to build the car to take 1000rw but not push it that hard. So improved cooling, built rear end, upgraded torque tube ect.. Basically I want it built so that I can beat on it but not push it to the limit that it was built for.
I plan to build the car to take 1000rw but not push it that hard. So improved cooling, built rear end, upgraded torque tube ect.. Basically I want it built so that I can beat on it but not push it to the limit that it was built for.
I absolutely love prochargers as far as superchargers go. I am not a big supercharger guy anymore. I say that because of the amount of power that's just available now, and the considerable amount more control with a turbo to put the power when and how you want it, but from what I have seen from the Kongs blowers, I would probably have a serious consideration, but I really do not know the numbers out the door for one complete vs a Procharger. There is also a "look" difference, and again, total preference for the owner, but I don't think you should have any issues meeting your goal with a LS3 and a fair amount of boost from either supercharger.
