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Old Oct 23, 2023 | 11:50 PM
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that usually needs a check valve, right?

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btw, i have a vented valve cover and there is no oil mist or smell under boost (=healthy engine).

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Old Oct 24, 2023 | 07:35 AM
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You should only need a check valve if your WG tube is tied into your exhaust. If it's a dump pipe to atmosphere and you have it installed correctly there shouldn't be back pressure and the high moving games past the tube should pull a vacuum.
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Old Oct 24, 2023 | 01:11 PM
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Top end cleaning? Never have I known 1 person that has ever needed this. Your arguments are not grounded in reality.
LOL……my argument is not an argument at all, it’s facts. Your statement is an argument against the facts.

You haven’t been around long enough or you’re not paying attention. There’s a whole industry built on “Top End” cleaning. And, it actually makes engines run better if they were dirty. Search “top end cleaning” and you’ll grow very old trying reading it all. Literally 100’s of members here over the years have cleaned their top ends and posted videos of it.

But most people have engines that slowly get dirty over many years and never notice. Those people THINK they have clean engines.
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Old Oct 24, 2023 | 01:12 PM
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Oil going into the AIR intake……..is dumb…..period.
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Old Oct 24, 2023 | 08:10 PM
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Also…..with -12an lines there’s no reason to mount the breather can in the engine bay. Mount it way back near the rear bumper.

No odors.
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Old Oct 24, 2023 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBoyWS6
Also…..with -12an lines there’s no reason to mount the breather can in the engine bay. Mount it way back near the rear bumper.

No odors.
you're suggesting running 12AN lines the entire length of the car for a crankcase breather?
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Old Oct 24, 2023 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBoyWS6
Also…..with -12an lines there’s no reason to mount the breather can in the engine bay. Mount it way back near the rear bumper.

No odors.
That makes Zero sense to mount a vented can in the rear of the car.
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Old Oct 25, 2023 | 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
you're suggesting running 12AN lines the entire length of the car for a crankcase breather?
Well, the only negative I hear from anyone pertaining to using ONLY an oil breather can set up (no PCV), is “oil odors inside the car”.

Run the can in the rear of the car, problem solved.

People run turbos in the rear, imagine the extra cost to do that. What’s the extra cost to run more line, pretty much nothing.
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Old Oct 25, 2023 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 91 Z28
That makes Zero sense to mount a vented can in the rear of the car.
While it's not exactly intended for a vent, it's actually fairly common to run large (gallon to 2 gallon) vented burn tanks or puke tanks in the trunk area of boosted race cars. The idea is if there is a ring or piston failure, the boost pressure will force all, or most, of the engine oil out, and the intent of the rear mounted tank is to catch it vs going under the rear tires at speed and oiling down the track.
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Old Oct 25, 2023 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by BigBoyWS6
Well, the only negative I hear from anyone pertaining to using ONLY an oil breather can set up (no PCV), is “oil odors inside the car”.

Run the can in the rear of the car, problem solved.

People run turbos in the rear, imagine the extra cost to do that. What’s the extra cost to run more line, pretty much nothing.
I run a rear mount turbo and it's hardly worth the comparison of venting a crankcase at the rear. If vented properly up front there's little to no oil smell anyways.
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Old Oct 25, 2023 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 93Z2871805
While it's not exactly intended for a vent, it's actually fairly common to run large (gallon to 2 gallon) vented burn tanks or puke tanks in the trunk area of boosted race cars. The idea is if there is a ring or piston failure, the boost pressure will force all, or most, of the engine oil out, and the intent of the rear mounted tank is to catch it vs going under the rear tires at speed and oiling down the track.
But now we're comparing full tilt, max effort race setups and street cars, no one with a 1,000hp streetcar is going to go through all that.
I'm contemplating a coolant surge tank or mounting my coolant puke tank in the rear for this reason but its low on the to do list.
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Originally Posted by BigBoyWS6
Also…..with -12an lines there’s no reason to mount the breather can in the engine bay. Mount it way back near the rear bumper.

No odors.
Way overkill and a waste of money, 5-6 feet of -12AN versus 30 feet of -12AN isn't chump change.
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Old Oct 25, 2023 | 06:03 PM
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But now we're comparing full tilt, max effort race setups and street cars, no one with a 1,000hp streetcar is going to go through all that.
I'm contemplating a coolant surge tank or mounting my coolant puke tank in the rear for this reason but its low on the to do list.
I don't disagree, for most it's unnecessary. But To the OP's original question, application specific, it's pretty much dealer's choice as to whether or not a catch can, vented breather tank, or burn tank is needed.
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Old Oct 26, 2023 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 93Z2871805
I don't disagree, for most it's unnecessary. But To the OP's original question, application specific, it's pretty much dealer's choice as to whether or not a catch can, vented breather tank, or burn tank is needed.
I'd be curious to know what one of those burn tank setups run, plus cutting a hole in your deck lid.
I'd bet once you price one out, a PCV system looks like a steal lol.
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Old Oct 27, 2023 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
You should only need a check valve if your WG tube is tied into your exhaust. If it's a dump pipe to atmosphere and you have it installed correctly there shouldn't be back pressure and the high moving games past the tube should pull a vacuum.
this was quite popular back in the day and the idea of the check valve was to take advantage of the exhaust pulsing. iv never done it though.
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