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Old Dec 23, 2023 | 03:19 PM
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So I have a 98 Trans am and was going to just do a 416 with nitrous. But the more and more I think of it I think I just will put up the money and go the procharger route.

does any one here have pictures of there procharger setups on any F Body Trans am?. I'm not digging the package they sell for the procharger for the f bodies.

I'm just gonna go the F1 unit route. But my main question is if it's easy to install and be able to keep everything on the car functional. I still would like to drive around and cruise with it even though it's not per say may daily driver.


Something like this is what im wanting.

just wanted to start a thread and get some of yalls guys stories on having one installed and the pros and cons of going the force induction route.
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Old Dec 24, 2023 | 12:32 AM
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There's lots of guys running around with F1x prochargers in the C6 Corvettes with everything working. There should be no reason why you can't do the same thing on your TA
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Old Dec 24, 2023 | 06:46 AM
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If I'm understanding your post correctly it sounds like you want to fab up your own procharger plumbing rather than use the procharger kit?

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Old Dec 24, 2023 | 10:06 AM
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If I'm understanding your post correctly it sounds like you want to fab up your own procharger plumbing rather than use the procharger kit?

that's exactly what I had meant lol. Sorry if it was confusing. I was more or less asking if anyone has any pointers or can explain there custom setups that didn't use the standard procharger kit.
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Old Dec 24, 2023 | 11:11 AM
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I don't have an Fbody, but looking at pictures the procharger kit is probably best if you don't want to relocate or lose anything. If you're willing to fabricate, relocate, and possibly lose some things then I'd consider one of the LS procharger brackets that puts the procharger up top with the inlet facing forward as well as the largest air to air intercooler you can fit up front. From there fabricate the tubing as necessary.

A good radiator, fans, and overall airflow into and out of the engine bay will help a bunch for a driver.
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Old Dec 24, 2023 | 11:50 AM
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I don't have an Fbody, but looking at pictures the procharger kit is probably best if you don't want to relocate or lose anything. If you're willing to fabricate, relocate, and possibly lose some things then I'd consider one of the LS procharger brackets that puts the procharger up top with the inlet facing forward as well as the largest air to air intercooler you can fit up front. From there fabricate the tubing as necessary.

A good radiator, fans, and overall airflow into and out of the engine bay will help a bunch for a driver.

yeah I just wasn't too sure if anybody had fabricated a different way that didn't require removing anything. All in all if there is no other way I will just install the kit as is.
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yeah I just wasn't too sure if anybody had fabricated a different way that didn't require removing anything. All in all if there is no other way I will just install the kit as is.
Wonder if you could just swap to Corvette brackets and spacing and install an F1x kit like the picture
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Originally Posted by 91 Z28
Wonder if you could just swap to Corvette brackets and spacing and install an F1x kit like the picture
I've been looking and it seems like someone has done this and it fit. Just not sure if they had to move anything or remove anything doing it this way.
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Wonder if you could just swap to Corvette brackets and spacing and install an F1x kit like the picture

I think this is ehat the c5 set up looks like. It looks clean forsure.
just not sure what sure what fabricating they had to do...hopefully someone with some experience doing this will chime in.
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I think this is ehat the c5 set up looks like. It looks clean forsure.
just not sure what sure what fabricating they had to do...hopefully someone with some experience doing this will chime in.
According to TRE performance that c6 kit: "You do not need to make any major modifications or purchase special tools or other parts."
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According to TRE performance that c6 kit: "You do not need to make any major modifications or purchase special tools or other parts."
but does that consider installing it on Fbody Trans am is what I'm wondering.
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I’ve never done it, but I don’t see why you couldn’t swap out the entire accessory drive setup for a corvette setup.
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but does that consider installing it on Fbody Trans am is what I'm wondering.
Well the C6 still uses an LS just like your TA, just with a tighter to the block accessory drive, if you changed your F body acc drive to Corvette drive there should be zero reason why it shouldn't bolt right on
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Doing a kit on my sons Dart 427 build on his 01 camaro. Going with the F1A-94. I spent quite a bit of time with the them at PRI and talked to the main Rep that handles the F-body kits.
Stand up the Radiator because it uses the full FMIC and it mounts low and in front of the Alt. He showed me many pics of them installed. This is probably the easiest install kit I've ever seen.
Should make about 1200rwhp on @ 10lbs staying very conservative for a street toy.
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Doing a kit on my sons Dart 427 build on his 01 camaro. Going with the F1A-94. I spent quite a bit of time with the them at PRI and talked to the main Rep that handles the F-body kits.
Stand up the Radiator because it uses the full FMIC and it mounts low and in front of the Alt. He showed me many pics of them installed. This is probably the easiest install kit I've ever seen.
Should make about 1200rwhp on @ 10lbs staying very conservative for a street toy.
What transmission? If auto trans 1200 rwhp is very doable with an f1a-94, but you will have to be aggressive with how fast you spin the blower.

I'm spinning my F1a-94 to max recommended impeller speed on E85 and meth injection. Based upon weight and trap speed I'm right around 1000 rwhp just touching 20 psi peak. The boost number is irrelevant only a representation of how efficient the motor is, but the blower will only make so much power regardless of cubic inches or engine efficiency. I know there is more in it if I spin the blower faster as many people do spin them way beyond max recommended impeller speed. You can make 1200 rwhp but I do think you will have to get aggressive with the F1a-94 to do so.

Manual transmission would make 1200 rwhp much easier.
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Originally Posted by SAPPER
Doing a kit on my sons Dart 427 build on his 01 camaro. Going with the F1A-94. I spent quite a bit of time with the them at PRI and talked to the main Rep that handles the F-body kits.
Stand up the Radiator because it uses the full FMIC and it mounts low and in front of the Alt. He showed me many pics of them installed. This is probably the easiest install kit I've ever seen.
Should make about 1200rwhp on @ 10lbs staying very conservative for a street toy.
sorry but you wont make 1200rwhp with only 10psi.

The Aster bracket from Brutespeed can hold a f1x head units so i don’t understand why you need to go with a custom bracket unless you dont want it located on the lower driver side. I also think that the newer procharger f body kit can also hold up to an f1x head as well.
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Not sure what engine y'all are using for engines, but this is a Dart SHP 427 using Borowski All Pro heads as a start.
Just because there are no youtube vids showing cars making power, doesn't mean it can't be done. A friend just finished his 408 F1A-91 GTO that's making 1150 on 14 lbs. And his build is very moderate.
Not my first rodeo here.


EDIT:, I stand corrected...there is a vid. Funny that I was talking to LME at PRI about their heads 2 weeks ago

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That LME intake manifold is a work of art but pricey. Cool **** ain't cheap!
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Originally Posted by SAPPER
Not sure what engine y'all are using for engines, but this is a Dart SHP 427 using Borowski All Pro heads as a start.
Just because there are no youtube vids showing cars making power, doesn't mean it can't be done. A friend just finished his 408 F1A-91 GTO that's making 1150 on 14 lbs. And his build is very moderate.
Not my first rodeo here.


EDIT:, I stand corrected...there is a vid. Funny that I was talking to LME at PRI about their heads 2 weeks ago
https://youtu.be/c0iHtVOcatM?si=Gsr6DUXbGRiMDxMJ
I didn't say it can't be done. I have a friend locally putting down over 1200 rwhp through an 80e and 9" with an F1a-94 on a 427 from LME. He maxed out the blower to do it. Of course it can be done. You also realize in the video you posted they are spinning the blower way way passed recommended max impeller speed right?

My comment was simply that to make 1200 rwhp through any form of auto transmission you are going to have to push the blower and you said you wouldn't even be pushing it. Not pushing the motor I agree with, but you will have a tough time making 1200 rwhp through an auto at or below recommended max impeller speed of the F1a-94.

Can it be done absolutely and can it be done with a super efficient big inch motor at way less boost than what I'm doing with a budget built motor...absolutely. My guess is to hit 1200 rwhp through an auto you will be at or above max recommended impeller speed.

I honestly hope you prove me wrong though.

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Originally Posted by 01CamaroSSTx
That LME intake manifold is a work of art but pricey. Cool **** ain't cheap!
Yep, the air to water intercooler, C85 race ethanol, to keep it cool while spinning the blower way passed its max recommended impeller speed to make 1550 crank hp with no accessories translates to 1200 ish rwhp which is the claim that can be done without pushing the blower.

I disagree based upon what LME had to do to hit the number put that in a car with an auto trans, air to air, pump 85, along with the underhood heat and it shows hitting 1200 rwhp with an F1a-94 even with a super-efficient motor isn't that easy and certainly requires pushing the blower to its max capabilities.

Dyno's vary though so who knows what a friendly chassis dyno might say.
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