Boost + Cam LS3 limit
I’m wondering what the limit of an ls3 with a turbo specific cam and associated valve work would top out at. The current plan is the TSP bald eagle boost cam, and a 78mm single turbo. in this setup what’s the power/psi limit? (93 pump gas maybeeeeee e85)
If the lifters look like they may be rough based on the old cam coming out then heads will be pulled, ported, and polished and i’ll get a thicker gasket to drop compression down to 9.5:1 and ls7 lifters. what would the limit be in that scenario?
my dream number is 900 on high boost and like being able to run off the gate at like 700 ish. To hit that goal would i need to check ring gap/ gap the rings, would I need a set of forged drop in rods and pistons? i’m hoping for a no to both lol.
If the lifters look like they may be rough based on the old cam coming out then heads will be pulled, ported, and polished and i’ll get a thicker gasket to drop compression down to 9.5:1 and ls7 lifters. what would the limit be in that scenario?
my dream number is 900 on high boost and like being able to run off the gate at like 700 ish. To hit that goal would i need to check ring gap/ gap the rings, would I need a set of forged drop in rods and pistons? i’m hoping for a no to both lol.
@ls3fox has pushed his SBE LS3 well past 1,000whp for a while now.
Perhaps he'll chime in but pump gas will limit power but be able to hit that 700hp on gate mark easy, E85 will do 900hp and beyond.
I don't know what the intended use is but you say 78mm turbo which makes me think a 7875, if that's the case I'd go bigger.
Don't port the heads, just run them, gap the rings if you're in there just to be safe.
Buy good lifters and valve springs so you can spin it up, turbo engines love rpm.
Perhaps he'll chime in but pump gas will limit power but be able to hit that 700hp on gate mark easy, E85 will do 900hp and beyond.
I don't know what the intended use is but you say 78mm turbo which makes me think a 7875, if that's the case I'd go bigger.
Don't port the heads, just run them, gap the rings if you're in there just to be safe.
Buy good lifters and valve springs so you can spin it up, turbo engines love rpm.
You would need a head gasket thicker than 0.100" to drop an LS3 compression to 9.5:1. Not happening.
A bald eagle boost cam in an LS3 is also too much cam for a majority of the 78mm turbo options that people are going with right now. You'd need something like a borg frame turbo in T6.
A bald eagle boost cam in an LS3 is also too much cam for a majority of the 78mm turbo options that people are going with right now. You'd need something like a borg frame turbo in T6.
I'm not familiar with that cam but a 7875 on a 6.2 is a little small I would go with something like a s480
no need to drop compression it'll make 700 on pump gas easy after that I switched to e85 and have made over 1300
Ls9 head gaskets, arp head studs , btr cam and valve springs s480 should be good for 1000whp
Be sure to check ring gap as mine was .006 on the top rings I gapped mine to .026 and .028
no need to drop compression it'll make 700 on pump gas easy after that I switched to e85 and have made over 1300
Ls9 head gaskets, arp head studs , btr cam and valve springs s480 should be good for 1000whp
Be sure to check ring gap as mine was .006 on the top rings I gapped mine to .026 and .028
You would need a head gasket thicker than 0.100" to drop an LS3 compression to 9.5:1. Not happening.
A bald eagle boost cam in an LS3 is also too much cam for a majority of the 78mm turbo options that people are going with right now. You'd need something like a borg frame turbo in T6.
A bald eagle boost cam in an LS3 is also too much cam for a majority of the 78mm turbo options that people are going with right now. You'd need something like a borg frame turbo in T6.
I'm not familiar with that cam but a 7875 on a 6.2 is a little small I would go with something like a s480
no need to drop compression it'll make 700 on pump gas easy after that I switched to e85 and have made over 1300
Ls9 head gaskets, arp head studs , btr cam and valve springs s480 should be good for 1000whp
Be sure to check ring gap as mine was .006 on the top rings I gapped mine to .026 and .028
no need to drop compression it'll make 700 on pump gas easy after that I switched to e85 and have made over 1300
Ls9 head gaskets, arp head studs , btr cam and valve springs s480 should be good for 1000whp
Be sure to check ring gap as mine was .006 on the top rings I gapped mine to .026 and .028
@ls3fox has pushed his SBE LS3 well past 1,000whp for a while now.
Perhaps he'll chime in but pump gas will limit power but be able to hit that 700hp on gate mark easy, E85 will do 900hp and beyond.
I don't know what the intended use is but you say 78mm turbo which makes me think a 7875, if that's the case I'd go bigger.
Don't port the heads, just run them, gap the rings if you're in there just to be safe.
Buy good lifters and valve springs so you can spin it up, turbo engines love rpm.
Perhaps he'll chime in but pump gas will limit power but be able to hit that 700hp on gate mark easy, E85 will do 900hp and beyond.
I don't know what the intended use is but you say 78mm turbo which makes me think a 7875, if that's the case I'd go bigger.
Don't port the heads, just run them, gap the rings if you're in there just to be safe.
Buy good lifters and valve springs so you can spin it up, turbo engines love rpm.
does that hardware sounds good enough to spin it up pretty good?
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@ls3fox also you seem to be the go to guy here, so if i already have the motor out, and the pistons out to get the rings gapped, should i just throw in a set of forged drop in rods and pistons? It’s a kinda budget build but not really, spending the 2k on rods and pistons would just have me wait an extra week or two to buy a drag pack which not really a big deal cus i don’t get to the strip that often.
The Johnson lifters are also very good, you pay more but you don't have to worry about a seized wheel shredding the cam and engine rebuild.
I use the drop in BTR .660 springs, tool steel retainers, Brute Speed FI cam (which chops very nicely) and factory lifters to 7,000-7,500rpm for reference.
@ls3fox also you seem to be the go to guy here, so if i already have the motor out, and the pistons out to get the rings gapped, should i just throw in a set of forged drop in rods and pistons? It’s a kinda budget build but not really, spending the 2k on rods and pistons would just have me wait an extra week or two to buy a drag pack which not really a big deal cus i don’t get to the strip that often.
I didn't say it was too much cam for the engine, it is too much cam/engine for the turbo.
You can get away with a LOT less cam than most think when running a turbo. You can always raise the boost to increase flow in most cases. I run the BTR Stage 1 v2 cam in my twin turbo street driven LS3. The turbos are definitely the limiting factor in power, not the cam.
You can get away with a LOT less cam than most think when running a turbo. You can always raise the boost to increase flow in most cases. I run the BTR Stage 1 v2 cam in my twin turbo street driven LS3. The turbos are definitely the limiting factor in power, not the cam.
The Brute Speed FI cam I'm running isn't particularly big although at an 800rpm idle it's very choppy.
I was told this cam would peak around 6,500rpm but it pulls incredibly hard out to 7,500rpm easily.
If I shift at 7,500rpm, by the time everything takes place its at 8,000rpm so I'd imagine it'll go higher.
My wife’s c10 made 930whp with a sbe ls3, brodix br1 heads, BTR stage 3, s485 t4 on 19psi. I’ve ran 21-22 at the track but it dropped fuel pressure. Just put a larger pump in yesterday. May put it back on the dyno if I get time. I feel you will need more turbine so at least a 80/96 min.
My wife’s c10 made 930whp with a sbe ls3, brodix br1 heads, BTR stage 3, s485 t4 on 19psi. I’ve ran 21-22 at the track but it dropped fuel pressure. Just put a larger pump in yesterday. May put it back on the dyno if I get time. I feel you will need more turbine so at least a 80/96 min.









