STS Turbo Owners - Please Respond
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STS Turbo Owners - Please Respond Thinking about purchasing one of these kits. I have read, on numerous boards, of the numbers they are putting down, and they seem to be worth the money. My only concern is if someone wanted to steal it, or mess with it. My car is not garage kept. Just call me an idiot if this is a dumb question.
http://www.ststurbo.com
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http://www.ststurbo.com
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Last edited by tanglewood; Aug 5, 2004 at 12:36 PM.
With the Junkyard King, aka cordless Sawzall.... 30 seconds max? 
I love my Sawzall...
Not that I go ripping off exhausts n stuff... 
I love my Sawzall...
Not that I go ripping off exhausts n stuff... Thread Starter
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I’m not too concerned with them stealing the entire kit, obviously. But could they just grab the turbo itself off of there in a short time, if they had all of the right tools prior?
I guess my biggest worry would be racing an immature person, whipping up on them, and then having them come and vandalize it. “Hey isn’t that that white SS with the turbo? Let’s make him wonder where his boost went when he gets into drive it in the morning!”
Obviously this wouldn’t be a major concern if you have a garage. Maybe I should get a house with a two car garage mod, and then get the turbo...
I guess my biggest worry would be racing an immature person, whipping up on them, and then having them come and vandalize it. “Hey isn’t that that white SS with the turbo? Let’s make him wonder where his boost went when he gets into drive it in the morning!”
Obviously this wouldn’t be a major concern if you have a garage. Maybe I should get a house with a two car garage mod, and then get the turbo...
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I wouldn't think it would be very hard to wire in some type of trigger for or to your alarm system so it would go off when removed.
Or better yet if you have a motion sensor with your alarm the sawzall or any hard wrenching would set the alarm off before it could be removed from the car.
BT
Or better yet if you have a motion sensor with your alarm the sawzall or any hard wrenching would set the alarm off before it could be removed from the car.
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Even better, I wonder if you could put some welds on it where it would be hard to get with the sawz-all....
I think I will do what I should have done in the first place and just call them and ask that question...
I think I will do what I should have done in the first place and just call them and ask that question...
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Originally Posted by tanglewood
Turns out that is what the founder recomends. Tac-Welds on the bolts.
Guess I should have just called them in the first place...
Guess I should have just called them in the first place...
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Originally Posted by Zo6Killer
If the potential thief has a sawzall, he or she could just cut the pipes, bypassing the welded bolts. I would think that any decent alarms' shock sensor would detect the cutting of mounted pipes, however. To be safe, get a zone (or proximity) sensor. That way they couldn't even get under the truck without the alarm being triggered.
My understanding is that he was saying to tac-weld the bolts that mount the system to the undercarriage of the car. Although such bolts may not exist. I was assuming that there would be some sort of mount that held it to the undercarriage.
I could be wrong?
I have had the STS system on the LT1 for a year now and my car includes one of the first fbody kits. I havent had a problem with anyone screwing with it, but now mater what it is someone can always find a way to steal it. I usually back in whenever parking. I have also added to the security system. The advice is to Tac-weld the bolts on the exhaust turbo flange, to the pipe flange.
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Originally Posted by Zo6Killer
If the potential thief has a sawzall, he or she could just cut the pipes, bypassing the welded bolts. I would think that any decent alarms' shock sensor would detect the cutting of mounted pipes, however. To be safe, get a zone (or proximity) sensor. That way they couldn't even get under the truck without the alarm being triggered.
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I purchased a Cliffird alarm system that utilizes an impact sesnor, tilt sensor and a dual zone prox sensor which will be mounted hidden under the truck and centered around the turbo area. The Alarm's remote has an LCD display that vibrates and visually warns you which zone on the alarm has been breached. Cutting wires is not an option, like the guy mentioned above, if the alarm is installed properly and with care. The average install would be easy to get to and snip wires etc. That's why my shop charges so much for an install. Everything is VERY hidden and would take more time to bypass than is realistic because by then I'm already out there to investigate.
Since mine is in a 4x4 truck it is even more vulnerable for theft and the battery is very easy to get to so my solution for that is a backup battery AND a self powered siren. This eliminates the possibility of them cutting my battery cable to disable the alarm AND if they choose to find my siren and clip it they will trigger the self-powered unit and even if they find it the only way to shut it off is with a special barrel key.
Nuthing is fool proof but with the right equipment and precautions you can seriously limit who can take your prized items.
Just don't go parking at a movie theatre or amusment park, walk 1/2 mile away from your car and expect it to be safe IMO.
Glad I got a 3 car garage though. LOL
Since mine is in a 4x4 truck it is even more vulnerable for theft and the battery is very easy to get to so my solution for that is a backup battery AND a self powered siren. This eliminates the possibility of them cutting my battery cable to disable the alarm AND if they choose to find my siren and clip it they will trigger the self-powered unit and even if they find it the only way to shut it off is with a special barrel key.
Nuthing is fool proof but with the right equipment and precautions you can seriously limit who can take your prized items.
Just don't go parking at a movie theatre or amusment park, walk 1/2 mile away from your car and expect it to be safe IMO.
Glad I got a 3 car garage though. LOL
Stealing the turbo would **** me off, but I would be more worried about where the oil went, as soon as it cranked and I heard the loud exhaust, by that time, oil would be everywhere!
Is this really what we have to look forward to anyway, how to theft-proof our mods? What kind of **** are kids being taught these days? Alarms are a neighborhood annoyance, whens the last time someones alarm went off and you seen them getting up at O-dark thirty to investigate? Before I deployed, while in Hawaii (car theft capital!) alarms went off everyday, I thought it was some new Rave Music the kids were trying to mix, not enough people pay attention.
If your worried about stealing of your STS, then spend the extra few bucks and buy a TTi or QMP under-the hood-kit.
Maybe that should be their new selling point:
"Hey guys, check out our under-the-hood turbo kit, unlike the "other guys" easy to steal rear mount kit".............................
Sorry for ranting, but really!
Is this really what we have to look forward to anyway, how to theft-proof our mods? What kind of **** are kids being taught these days? Alarms are a neighborhood annoyance, whens the last time someones alarm went off and you seen them getting up at O-dark thirty to investigate? Before I deployed, while in Hawaii (car theft capital!) alarms went off everyday, I thought it was some new Rave Music the kids were trying to mix, not enough people pay attention.
If your worried about stealing of your STS, then spend the extra few bucks and buy a TTi or QMP under-the hood-kit.
Maybe that should be their new selling point:
"Hey guys, check out our under-the-hood turbo kit, unlike the "other guys" easy to steal rear mount kit".............................
Sorry for ranting, but really!
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I laugh when people like you say "no one pays attention".
I pay attention and that's all that matters. I don't expect a neibhor to do something about it. It's unsafe.
I really don't mind though. All the people who think alarms are useless will be the peoples cars who get broken into, not mine. When thief has a choice between 2 cars, one with an alarm and one without you can bet which one will be his target.
But to each his own they always say
I pay attention and that's all that matters. I don't expect a neibhor to do something about it. It's unsafe.
I really don't mind though. All the people who think alarms are useless will be the peoples cars who get broken into, not mine. When thief has a choice between 2 cars, one with an alarm and one without you can bet which one will be his target.
But to each his own they always say
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If said person is going to steal the turbo they are more then likely smart enough to disengage the alarm prior to the theft.
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If the potential thief has a sawzall, he or she could just cut the pipes, bypassing the welded bolts. I would think that any decent alarms' shock sensor would detect the cutting of mounted pipes, however. To be safe, get a zone (or proximity) sensor. That way they couldn't even get under the truck without the alarm being triggered.
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To be safe, get a zone (or proximity) sensor.
That way they couldn't even get under the truck without the alarm being triggered.
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If the potential thief has a sawzall, he or she could just cut the pipes, bypassing the welded bolts. I would think that any decent alarms' shock sensor would detect the cutting of mounted pipes, however. To be safe, get a zone (or proximity) sensor. That way they couldn't even get under the truck without the alarm being triggered.
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To be safe, get a zone (or proximity) sensor.
That way they couldn't even get under the truck without the alarm being triggered.