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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 08:53 PM
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What do you think of this turbo for about 650 Horses to the rear through an OBX intercooler? Stock cubes about 9.5:1 compression.

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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 08:57 PM
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Check this out before you do that..... Joe is awesome!

http://www.turbomustangs.com/forums/...threadid=24490

I was going to run this turbo but I wouldn't be able to run the PR I needed to in order to be up in the map in a good spot to run that much rwhp.... if that makes sense. The turbo is good for 840flwhp as you see... but look at the map and then look at a consumption chart for a Ls1... though with lowered comp as you plan, it might work.
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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 09:04 PM
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Damn it you beat me to it.
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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 09:47 PM
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Do you think the T-70 is a good idea with my plans?

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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 10:21 PM
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Hmm first off you need to lower you CF i will be running 8.8. YOu need to find a map and find what psi you want to run along with what RPM u want to spin to. Are u going to go with stock cubes or bigger.
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The MP T70 is a great turbo will fit most low boost needs and some mid boost needs.

As for matching turbos and engine, use this link below...it will help.

http://forcedinductions.com/help.htm

BTW, we do match other turbo competitor prices.

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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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Also, you might want to read this link as well about some of the MP T70 units that are floating around being sold on E-bay.

http://www.turbomustangs.com/forums/...threadid=24364

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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 04:19 PM
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Yup. Jose has a great site..... and good prices, I just need money
That's where the consumption charts are for the ls1.
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Jose,

does the MP T70 flow more LBS/Min than a garrett t70 and would the MP T70 be big enough to keep up with a 6.0L. Is the MP GT45 to big for a 6.0L thanks
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 08:46 AM
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The 70's will flow about the same. Both are 70mm compressor and p-trim wheel. It will feed a 6.0L up to a certain level, but beyond that you will go past the choke line. The GT45 will do somewhat better, thanks to the larger frame compressor cover and large turbine side.

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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 09:00 AM
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The attached image is the plot on a T70 turbo from my turbo calculator. Low boost setting is 8 psi and high boost setting is 14 psi. As you can see from the plots the turbo is too small. On the low boost setting you're dropping off the map at under 5K rpm.

I wouldn't go with it and select the turbo that is better sized for your car.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 10:23 AM
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smokemup,

I think the plot would be much different then what is shown there, obviously your not going to be making those boost pressures at theose RPM's, so down low you will be in the efficiency range but up top you will be pushing the limits on that displacement engine and turbo. I originally had the T-70 for my project and went ahead and got the GT45 due to that fact, i am mor einterested in top end power at higher RPM then the quick burst of boost down low though, so depending on your goals, this is something to consider. again the GT45 will also drop some of the exhaust pressure due to its much larger turbine wheel and larger housing, keeping your pressure ratios in check much better and eliminating power drop off from choking. for the small difference in price, I'd go GT45 on your setup.

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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by lcvette
smokemup,

I think the plot would be much different then what is shown there, obviously your not going to be making those boost pressures at theose RPM's, so down low you will be in the efficiency range but up top you will be pushing the limits on that displacement engine and turbo.
The plot is a static plot based on the same VE across the entire RPM band. You are correct the turbo will not make full boost down low. The point I tried to make is the turbo is on the small side and will run out of gas between 4500 - 5000 rpm.

I don't have the map for the GT45 turbo so I can't say how it will perform. Based on the name I'm assuming it's a Garrett turbo, correct?
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:06 AM
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smokemup, your site rocks! Love the automath calculators!
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:06 AM
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He's talking about the Master power GT45.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:13 AM
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No, the GT45 is a Master Power unit. Bascially its a drag radial cheater 70mm turbo.

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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JZ 97 SS 1500
No, the GT45 is a Master Power unit. Bascially its a drag radial cheater 70mm turbo.

Jose
what do you mean by drag radial cheater Jose? I was turned off to the GT45 because of the 5" inlet and 4" outlet
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MYTURBOT/A
He's talking about the Master power GT45.
Is their a turbo map available for it?

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smokemup, your site rocks! Love the automath calculators!
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:37 AM
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Cheater turbo bascially means small inducer with overly larger exducer and huge turbine. The GT45 uses a small 70mm inducer, but the exducer is almost 100mm. Your typical T70 use a 70mm inducer with 90mm exducer. The exhaust side on a standard T70 p-trim is 64mm/74mm exducer. The GT45 is a 78mm/90mm exducer, which is almost as large as a T88.

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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:39 AM
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BTW, the MP GT45 is a 4" inlet, and 3.3" discharge
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