Shooting for 800rwhp
Originally Posted by Chris ARE 385
that was with nitrous, a WHOLE other ballgame from a six speed turbo setup.
His power all comes on within a 200rpm window. You have to worry about boost off the line, boost loss between shifts etc.
Taner can also drive like a **** with a six speed
Its going to be really tough with a six speed to run 9.4s with 800RWHP.
His power all comes on within a 200rpm window. You have to worry about boost off the line, boost loss between shifts etc.
Taner can also drive like a **** with a six speed
Its going to be really tough with a six speed to run 9.4s with 800RWHP.
Originally Posted by Hugger_99
I realize that mid 9s are pretty unattainable from what everyones sayin in a 6sp at least for me cuz im not that damn good at rowin em, average id say now, im just shooting for 9.90s-9.80s now
Originally Posted by quickWS6
I had heard some rumors about your car around Enterprise, glad to see that they weren't all bullshit. Good luck on hitting those power/ET numbers!
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Originally Posted by Hugger_99
thanks man. who do you know in auburn? i only know a few folks there. U ever go to montgomery and drag?
I used to go to Montgomery a lot. I started to put my car back to stock and sold off almost all of my performace parts. I have since decided to keep the car, so I have to start modifying it again.
Originally Posted by quickWS6
I know some of the AERC guys, but that is about all the guys that I've met that ever hit the track.
I used to go to Montgomery a lot. I started to put my car back to stock and sold off almost all of my performace parts. I have since decided to keep the car, so I have to start modifying it again.
I used to go to Montgomery a lot. I started to put my car back to stock and sold off almost all of my performace parts. I have since decided to keep the car, so I have to start modifying it again.
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Hugger I think your car with a TH400 would be sick 
you could run a tall gear ratio and still have good drivability with 800RWHP.
28 inch DR with 3.42 gears on the street would work well. 3800 stall and mid 9s would be cake on slicks at the track
you could run a tall gear ratio and still have good drivability with 800RWHP.
28 inch DR with 3.42 gears on the street would work well. 3800 stall and mid 9s would be cake on slicks at the track
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Assuming this is a street driven car, you should definately consider a gen7 if you plan to make those numbers with a turbo. I run a gen-7 on my 800hp pump gas mustang, and having previously run several other types of ECUs (PMS, eec-tuner, epec), I can tell you that the gen-7 is night and day better than anything else I've seen (I have no experience with the speedpro/f.a.s.t. so that's excluded).
I use ls1edit on my ss, and it is pretty good, but for your application it's nowhere near as good as the gen-7. The gen-7 is extremely consistent and consistency is key because it allows you to get closer to the edge without stepping over it.
If you were running a nitrous setup it wouldnt be such a big deal, a supercharged setup is harder because you have more load/rpm cells you typically traverse, but a turbo setup is the worst because you bounce all over the map, especially in street driving with a 6 speed.
The way calmap (the software you use to program the gen-7) is written, you can get several points corrected using the wideband, then you can look at the data in a graphical format and it becomes painfully obvious what your fuel curve looks like. This helps you to see where your problems are and why.
Also, the gen-7 has a wideband o2 option, which you should definitely get. You can program the gen-7 to operate in closed loop at WOT with the wideband, so if you are off of your AF target, it will start adding or pulling fuel to get it on the mark.
Your tuning strategy may vary, but my tuning strategy is to set the VE tables a couple percent rich (at high load), then use the closed loop wideband to pull fuel out. This way during quick transitions it's a little bit rich, and once you're in a gear under load it starts pulling out those few percent until you hit the desired AF. The result of this strategy is you go rich rather than lean on sharp transitions (IE: gear switches, like downshifting from 6th to 3rd).
The wideband o2 is a must. The sequential mode is optional. I run 83# injectors and I cant any difference difference between batch mode or seqential mode.
I use ls1edit on my ss, and it is pretty good, but for your application it's nowhere near as good as the gen-7. The gen-7 is extremely consistent and consistency is key because it allows you to get closer to the edge without stepping over it.
If you were running a nitrous setup it wouldnt be such a big deal, a supercharged setup is harder because you have more load/rpm cells you typically traverse, but a turbo setup is the worst because you bounce all over the map, especially in street driving with a 6 speed.
The way calmap (the software you use to program the gen-7) is written, you can get several points corrected using the wideband, then you can look at the data in a graphical format and it becomes painfully obvious what your fuel curve looks like. This helps you to see where your problems are and why.
Also, the gen-7 has a wideband o2 option, which you should definitely get. You can program the gen-7 to operate in closed loop at WOT with the wideband, so if you are off of your AF target, it will start adding or pulling fuel to get it on the mark.
Your tuning strategy may vary, but my tuning strategy is to set the VE tables a couple percent rich (at high load), then use the closed loop wideband to pull fuel out. This way during quick transitions it's a little bit rich, and once you're in a gear under load it starts pulling out those few percent until you hit the desired AF. The result of this strategy is you go rich rather than lean on sharp transitions (IE: gear switches, like downshifting from 6th to 3rd).
The wideband o2 is a must. The sequential mode is optional. I run 83# injectors and I cant any difference difference between batch mode or seqential mode.
Originally Posted by Hugger_99
but also considering just getting a th-400 and then toss my 6sp into my z28
Ryan - you need to get that car up to MMP. I would really like to see it run.
John
Originally Posted by JNorris
Ryan - you need to get that car up to MMP. I would really like to see it run.
John
John
Last edited by Hugger_99; Oct 3, 2004 at 10:15 PM.
Originally Posted by Chris ARE 385
Hugger I think your car with a TH400 would be sick
you could run a tall gear ratio and still have good drivability with 800RWHP.
28 inch DR with 3.42 gears on the street would work well. 3800 stall and mid 9s would be cake on slicks at the track
you could run a tall gear ratio and still have good drivability with 800RWHP.
28 inch DR with 3.42 gears on the street would work well. 3800 stall and mid 9s would be cake on slicks at the track
Originally Posted by BIGBOS
I bet it is fun, I think a TH400 would be better for what you are shooting for though, just put the 6-speed in the other car
Just talked to Mike@Speed and seems they are going to go with the FAST system instead of the Gen7& im puttin in a th-400 in the SS so hopefully i can get those mid 9s now and then swappin the 6sp to my z28.
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Nice, I would have them look into the bigstuff3, I plan on using that system, when and IF I have to go standalone, its amazing what these stock computers are handling now w/more info we get.......
I plan on running the stock one for a while to come, if I have a fuel issue, I will step up to the 75# High Impedance injectors, they are suppously going for $750, but well worth it from what I hear........
I plan on running the stock one for a while to come, if I have a fuel issue, I will step up to the 75# High Impedance injectors, they are suppously going for $750, but well worth it from what I hear........