Sounds like a LS1 F-Body roots style supercharger might finally become a reality
10-18-2004, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
Now take that Mag off and throw on a Procharger D1 at 8lbs and see what you get.I bet 80 -100 more hp.But you must be the highest HP Mag. I've seen though 
10-18-2004, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by granitemonkey
Also, if a 03 Cobra can hit 700rwhp with a twin-screw , if you had the right setup and forged internals could 800rwhp be attainable on an LS1 with a twin-screw?
I think PSJ said it was a Roots style blower though so that is not a twin screw, kinda knocks the BLOWZILLA idea out the window.
10-18-2004, 03:09 PM
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Will it be intercooled? Kinda important on a high cr engine, the eaton generates alot of heat. I don't see why they don't start with a twin screw other than maybe space limitations.
10-18-2004, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by XLR8NSS
Nope, the limit is not the engine it's the compressor size. If 700rwhp is the limit of the compressor on a 03 Cobra it wouldn't make anymore power on an LS1. The only thing that would be different is the boost number since both motors have different air flow rates. The BLOWZILLA is probably running outta breath at 700rwhp.
I think PSJ said it was a Roots style blower though so that is not a twin screw, kinda knocks the BLOWZILLA idea out the window.
I think PSJ said it was a Roots style blower though so that is not a twin screw, kinda knocks the BLOWZILLA idea out the window.
Originally Posted by JS
Well Kenne Bell told me they will have 0ne for the 04/05 GTO which leads me to think they might be the guys doing the F-car.
I'd like to go 6.0 heads and a blowzilla.
That would be badass...
I'd like to go 6.0 heads and a blowzilla.
That would be badass...
10-18-2004, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by granitemonkey
Its all good my man, thanks for the info anyway. I always like to learn more 
Me too and this is the best site to learn from too.
10-18-2004, 05:00 PM
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You guys need to work on your skilz...
Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
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The roots supercharger has been around for a long time, how is the Eaton supercharger different? The Eaton supercharger is essentially a Roots blower pump, with one substantial design wrinkle; each rotor has been twisted 60 degrees to form a helix. The two counter rotating rotors have three lobes, which intermesh during operation. These twisted rotors, along with specially designed inlet and outlet port geometry, help to reduce pressure variations resulting in a smooth discharge of air and a low level of noise during operation. This arrangement also improves efficiency over traditional Roots superchargers. With helical rotors and an axial inlet the Eaton supercharger can be spun to up to 14,000 rpm, thereby reducing package size.
The roots supercharger has been around for a long time, how is the Eaton supercharger different? The Eaton supercharger is essentially a Roots blower pump, with one substantial design wrinkle; each rotor has been twisted 60 degrees to form a helix. The two counter rotating rotors have three lobes, which intermesh during operation. These twisted rotors, along with specially designed inlet and outlet port geometry, help to reduce pressure variations resulting in a smooth discharge of air and a low level of noise during operation. This arrangement also improves efficiency over traditional Roots superchargers. With helical rotors and an axial inlet the Eaton supercharger can be spun to up to 14,000 rpm, thereby reducing package size.
10-19-2004, 05:58 AM
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I don't see how it's going to be possible to put an intercooler under it unless of course they remove the valley cover and replace it with something of their own that can also incorporate the knock sensors. Even then that would give more room for an intercooler but then you would have to worry about getting the runners back up to the heads...lol hmmmmm...
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10-19-2004, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
I hope it is something stronger than the Magnacharger.The roots is very good looking but lacks alot of power compared to a Procharger.I haven't seen a Vette yet make more than 420rwhp on a stock motor and 480hp with a H/C setup.
We've have several intercooled A4 Vettes make 440-450 stock and a Z06 that was 450+ rwhp.
10-19-2004, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 69firebird
arent those what magna charger uses??
http://www.magnacharger.com/aboutus.htm
10-19-2004, 11:43 PM
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Damn John, I was waiting to see how patient you were going to be.....anyone that interested in a "certain" company should have easily been able to pick up the quote in the begining post!
Intercooled is a must, no doubt about that.
And as for slyWS6, Magnuson uses their own valley cover as you described for the LS applications, which also incorporates isolators to keep the knock sensors cool with the Eatons harmonic discharge.
Waiting for Santa"Magnuson"Claus now!
Intercooled is a must, no doubt about that.
And as for slyWS6, Magnuson uses their own valley cover as you described for the LS applications, which also incorporates isolators to keep the knock sensors cool with the Eatons harmonic discharge.
Waiting for Santa"Magnuson"Claus now!
10-20-2004, 02:52 AM
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The roots supercharger has been around for a long time, how is the Eaton supercharger different? The Eaton supercharger is essentially a Roots blower pump, with one substantial design wrinkle; each rotor has been twisted 60 degrees to form a helix. The two counter rotating rotors have three lobes, which intermesh during operation. These twisted rotors, along with specially designed inlet and outlet port geometry, help to reduce pressure variations resulting in a smooth discharge of air and a low level of noise during operation. This arrangement also improves efficiency over traditional Roots superchargers. With helical rotors and an axial inlet the Eaton supercharger can be spun to up to 14,000 rpm, thereby reducing package size.